Sarah Davies Olympic Weightlifter and Beauty Pageant Competitor

Growing up as a gymnast Sarah Davies was told she was too bulky! She also grew up in an era where dieting and being skinny was expected for women. 

Olympic Lifting has helped change her mindset around being Strong & Beautiful and she is on a mission to help other women feel the same. 

Tune in with Chad, Sarah and Co-Host Ian Childs as the three of them talk about her journey growing up, her training, nutrition, recovery and of course her passion for helping women feel Strong and Beautiful! 

Sarah just missed the podium in the Tokyo Olympics last summer in the 64kg weight class. She is one of the best in the world at her sport, but her journey was different than most Olympians. Tune in to hear the full story! 

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Transcript

Chad [0:06 - 0:34]
community of members, coaches and professionals working as a team of like minded individuals in constant pursuit, connecting this exclusive group with the tools and resources they require to live a high performance lifestyle, conquering what life has thrown at them, We are living the fit life. Welcome to living the Good Life podcast, episode 46. I'm your host chad Mueller and I'm here today with a very special guest and one of our favorite guests, hosts, Ian Childs, how's it going in?

Sarah Davies [0:34 - 0:35]
Good,

Ian [0:35 - 0:41]
happy to be back, It's been a little while been off, but I'm glad to be back again hosting. I enjoy this every time.

Chad [0:41 - 0:59]
Yes, we'll try to find other other opportunities to get you back um and yeah, you and I always get to sit down and chat with some super fit, amazing guests and today is no different and I don't want to waste any time, but very excited to have Sarah Davis from great Britain on the pod today, Welcome Sarah,

Sarah Davies [1:00 - 1:01]
Hi, thanks for having me,

Chad [1:02 - 1:33]
thank you for joining. And for those that aren't familiar with Sarah, she is an elite olympic lifter, she's an Olympian, a silver medalist and she's represented great Britain and beauty beauty pageantry and she's fighting to keep weightlifting weightlifting the olympics, so she's got quite the profile. Um not really sure where to start, but I feel like the first question I have to ask is being a beauty pageant competitor and a weightlifting Olympian, I would love to hear the story behind this.

Sarah Davies [1:34 - 3:11]
So the two things actually came about at like the same sort of time. Um so I started weightlifting in September 2011 when I was at university, and it was about that time that I probably I entered my first pageant because I did my first sexual pageant like, show in March 2012. Um The weightlifting was kind of, I was at university and, you know, I hadn't done any sort of fitness type or any training for a while, and I was a gymnast as a kid, and then I played golf, and then I went to uni and couldn't afford to keep playing golf to the student um and then, you know, found weightlifting while I was there, so I started weightlifting, enjoyed that, and at the same time I was working in a in a pub, very british things. Um and there was an advert in like, a local magazine for the local beauty pageant, and everyone was like, oh, you should do it, and I was like, no, that's not for me, like, and, you know, I kind of joked about now, but I had that stereotype of what a pageant queen is and what one should be, um and I was like, I'm not tall, skinny blonde, that have been though, um and I eat my words on that one now, because that's a bit like, people have the stereotype of weightlifting um and it isn't what people expect it to be. Um So I got peer pressured into entering my first pageant and I ended up winning, and then going on to the Miss England final um and I was so out of my depth with that, like, I just, I didn't expect to be there and didn't really know what was going on, it's a bit like being thrown like doing a regional meet and then going straight to the olympics, you'd be like, what the hell is going on? Did

Chad [3:11 - 3:14]
you enjoy it? Was it was it like fun?

Sarah Davies [3:14 - 5:00]
Yeah, it was fun at the time, I was like, it was like a four day final, so it was like real baptism of Fire and it was like, I enjoyed it and I'm still friends with some of those girls now that I competed alongside and yeah, it was, it was an experience, generally, it was an enjoyable one, but at the time I was overwhelmed, I was tired, it's long days, my feet hurt from wearing heels for four days, which normally have been like trainers and stuff, so um and then I was like, okay, I've done that now and then it came a couple of years later and I was like, I wouldn't mind doing that again um and just seeing it because I think I realized the need for that role model in that industry, but also in the fitness industry, especially the weightlifting one and I was like, you know what if I can kind of marry these two things together that as a kid when I was a gymnast, I was bullied for being muscular, and I'm like, I'm more mostly now than I've ever been, but I'm also more confident now in my body than I've ever been, and I'm happy with how I look and, you know, without, kind of gassing myself up, like, it's a figure that a lot of women aspire to have, but don't be scared to go in the weight room to achieve it. Um so I was like, if I can be a role model to 12 year old me that stop doing gymnastics partly because I was bullied for the way I looked like, then I've made a difference in the world that even if it's just one girl that that sees me and sees that difference, and, you know, since then, and obviously my social media is growing as I've become more successful as an athlete, like, I've had messages from, from young girls who have said, like, look, I didn't think I could do X or Y, and then I came across you and you know, I now believe in myself, and I've gone on to do this and that, and I'm like, it's just to have made that difference to those few young women and girls is just like, it makes it all worth it.

Ian [5:00 - 5:11]
Yeah, so rewarding, right? To know that what you're doing, actually is meaning it's something more than just yourself. So four, I got assets, four days of beauty competition? Like, what's a four day competition? Like

Sarah Davies [5:12 - 5:12]
is

Ian [5:12 - 5:16]
there the interviews where you have to say world peace is your answer for every question?

Sarah Davies [5:16 - 6:16]
Yeah. So that, that one was four days and then ended up in the 2018 hours in the Philippines for two weeks, which was, that was a long, that was a long slug. But yeah, like generally it's like, it's interviews is photo shoots. Like you talk about in the interview, you talk about any of the charity work you've done and community work and at the end of the day, like pageant interviews are a little bit like a job interview and pageants at the end of the day or a business and an organization and the winner is the person that's going to advertise the organization for the next 12 months. Um, so it's, it's talking about you and what you stand for and you know how you'd use that title going forward for the next 12 months. Um, So talking about, you know, things you're passionate about obviously for me that is, you know, being that role model on body image and, and all that type of stuff and fit healthy lifestyle, which I think, so I took a win in 2018, which was just after I won my Commonwealth silver medal. Um, a couple of months after that was a pretty cool. Um,

Ian [6:17 - 6:17]
too much.

Sarah Davies [6:18 - 6:21]
Yeah, yeah, collected some jewelry. I

Ian [6:21 - 6:32]
heard in your other podcast, you said your special skill on stage is weightlifting. So then do you get that, like they bring out a lifting platform and all the plates and everything and then you're just clean and jerking and snatching on stage. Is that what you

Sarah Davies [6:32 - 6:52]
do? I have done it before. Yeah, when there's a talent round, I've either like submitted videos or I have actually taken like, you know, the training bar and then the big like bumpers Yeah, and kind of talk people through the movement and stuff on stage and done like a presentation of what weightlifting is and whatever else. So it's a bit different. It makes you stand out, right?

Ian [6:52 - 6:56]
So yeah, are you going to continue with pageantry stuff or are you going to

Sarah Davies [6:57 - 6:57]
like,

Ian [6:57 - 7:09]
just to continue expand your brand because I feel like your brand is kind of that is your brand now, right? This strong, confident woman body image thing and continue. Is that how you see yourself in the next little while or what?

Sarah Davies [7:10 - 8:17]
Yeah, I mean, so I've aged out of like miss pageants and I now become a MERS, which is bad times. Yeah, it is something I'll do again. Um the thing with me, like I'm going to do something, I want to commit to it fully. Um and obviously weightlifting is my priority and then pageants are kind of my hobby alongside. So um with the olympics and stuff like I probably would have competed this like in 2021 if the olympics have been on time and obviously we've got commonwealth games this summer, so that is a priority. Um whether I might compete at the back end of 2022 again, um it's possible because like you said, it's part of my brand, it's part of who I am and what I stand for and it fits the barbell queen um thing and it's and it's what people kind of know me for, so it's keeping that relevant and you know, I enjoy doing pageants, like they are my hobby, um waiting has become my job and I do more and more of it with sponsors programming, like it's nice to get away from weightlifting and and live in a little bit of a different world for a short period of time.

Ian [8:18 - 8:26]
So this year, so Olympics got pushed to this year, you had the world this year we'll get a little further. So do you want another Olympic cycle? Are you looking 2024 as well,

Sarah Davies [8:26 - 8:38]
yeah, that's the goal 2020 for putting my my last one. Um you know, people go, oh but you're still fit and healthy, I'm like, yeah, but I'll be 32 I should probably think about, you know, doing other life stuff at that

Ian [8:38 - 8:39]
point,

Sarah Davies [8:39 - 8:59]
which I think, you know, that's partly like being a woman as well, I think has an effect on that. Um you know, you've got to look at different things and different priorities and also thinking about having a career in terms of actual like making money career rather than just playing sport career.

Chad [9:01 - 9:21]
I was gonna ask you Sarah I think it's awesome that your brand is to build this sort of strong body image because we were just on a podcast just before christmas with two of our members and we were talking about this to about body image and stuff like that and we were trying to talk about because there is a stigma like you know, um females don't want to

Sarah Davies [9:21 - 9:22]
eat

Chad [9:22 - 9:36]
large amount of food or take a lot of protein even though that might be in the gym for a long time or they're you know working out for two hours a day or if they're doing some sort of fitness challenge may be working for three or four hours a day, some of our endurance athletes and there's definitely this stigma that

Sarah Davies [9:36 - 9:38]
like you

Chad [9:38 - 9:56]
know obviously we have to refuel your body with like carbohydrates and proper protein, but there is a statement where it's like protein is gonna make me bulky and protein is gonna make me bigger, like how do you, I know you know this, but I guess how how do you talk to people like this to try to change that sort of stigma?

Sarah Davies [9:59 - 12:18]
Yeah, I think it's that thing of reminding people that like the female body just doesn't have the hormones to do that, like it's just not gonna ever happen um and kind of educating around that, like you're not, women don't naturally have enough testosterone in their body to get bulky, it's just not like the way we're built. Um and it's kind of using me as an example I guess, and a lot of people that I know that coach like quite often used me an example and they find a random pageant picture of me in a bikini on stage wearing a massive crown or whatever it is like. Um And also like, I mean I'm at the minute trying to gain weight and it's it is difficult because there is that kind of thing around it and especially because, you know, I was 64 kg in the bill to Tokyo and I was you know, playing less than 10% body fat at competitions for the last 67 years. Um So to see that change in my body now, trying to get, you know, I'm listening to the 71 trying to push 2 to 73 kg to be able to cut back in, like it has been tough um just to see that change in my body to not look like it has done for the last number of years. So um it's one of those things that like, I preach about it and then it comes to it being you and you're like, oh, but I was talking to one of my, you know, my good friends about it and she does kind of recreational weightlifting and she's like just had a baby girl and she's like, look, I don't want to hear you talking about body image because I don't want my daughter growing up hearing the things that we heard, like I like we were talking about it, the two of us and both of us grew up hearing our mom's saying that they're always on a diet and they want to lose weight and you know how I've come through that and it's it's no, it's no fault of my mom's, it's kind of a generational thing I think um to have come through that and have an okay relationship with food in my body, like sport has done that for me. And I think that's the thing that's important, is like kids are like sponges and then whatever they're hearing is going to be what they believe. And I think that's where we see that shift and that's what he talked to, you know, other people about is like, imagine you growing up and hearing your mom talk about, she wants to be strong, she wants to be powerful, she wants to be successful in this like that completely different dynamic is, you know what we want our Children growing up and hearing

Chad [12:18 - 12:48]
Mhm Yeah, I love that, fueling for performance and I feel like that's definitely something much more common with this generation for sure. Like food is is obviously, you know, we have the foodies and we're like the food porn and all the stuff that's really on instagram everything. But there's also this other sort of message about food is fuel. Yeah. And if you're gonna expand the fuel on a daily basis, you need to refuel your body and don't worry about the other stuff. Yeah. That's fantastic.

Ian [12:48 - 12:55]
Um Sarah I wanted to jump into some other stuff. So you're the president of the I. W. F. Athlete commission, is that right currently?

Sarah Davies [12:55 - 12:56]
And

Ian [12:56 - 13:10]
so I know right now there's some stuff going on with olympic weightlifting remaining in the olympics. And isn't there not like some weight class controversy happening as well where they're adjusting the weight class for the next Games if you want to expand on any of that stuff.

Sarah Davies [13:11 - 13:39]
Yeah. So we're basically we're at risk of being kicked out of the olympic movement completely because of the corruption that's gone on in weightlifting in the last realistically it's done decades, but it's all kind of come out in the last two years or so. Um So the IOC are like, look, we don't want to be involved in organization that have these things because it goes against the olympic movement in the olympic charter. Therefore you guys need to fix what's going on, otherwise we're gonna kick you out. Um

Chad [13:39 - 13:39]
as

Sarah Davies [13:39 - 15:08]
it stands, we're out of Los Angeles in 2028. Um there is there is a pathway to come back in if the I. W. F. Do what they're supposed to do. Um So as part of that as well, they basically reduce the quote of athletes and therefore the number of medals for paris 2024. Um because we've got that reduced number, it means the weight classes have to change. So obviously in Tokyo there was, you know, seven male and seven female events and for paris is five and five um and we have 10 classes for men and women across all other kind of competitions, so world's continentals all the way down to your local meats. Um So I was involved in the discussions around it and you know, to pick five categories to count for the Olympics out of 10 that we're all used to competing in across the board. Unfortunately 50% of people are going to be disappointed, like there's anything you can do about that, we looked at the numbers and the research and you know, we kind of found the best way to go about it was to go for every other weight class and then there's somewhere for everyone to move. Um like I said, people are gonna be disappointed unfortunately, like and when it got announced, you know, obviously I'm friends with a lot of weight lifters and it didn't necessarily go in their favor and you know, they kind of complaining about it and posted about it and I was like, I just felt like I failed. Um despite the fact like I was one vote amongst 30 people that that organized that and

Ian [15:08 - 15:12]
it was your fault, I'm sure.

Sarah Davies [15:12 - 17:17]
Yeah, exactly. Um realistically it's not even the idea, well it's not even the fault of the people that decided those weight classes. It's the fault of the I. W. F. And the stuff that's gone previous that the IOC have decided to reduce the quota. So you know, if you're gonna take it off anyone, it's got to go from the leadership and that's what we need to see change, which the elections have been delayed and delayed and if they don't happen in june next year then that that's it, we're realistically worth, we're out of Los Angeles um which obviously for me, as I just said like paris is probably my last one, but it's about that next generation of lifters and I think about some of the younger ones that are coming through and the fact that they might not have the opportunity to compete in olympic games is, is scary when we're one of the oldest olympic sports. So um you know, I'm fighting the fight to to keep us there and I have good communication with the IOC actually met with president bark in Tokyo, which was quite quite scary because when he, when he's there he goes and visits all the sports um and just kind of talks to whoever's about, but apparently he specifically requested me and he got out, he said he came to the waiting venue and there's like two police cars and IOC car and then like a blacked out car that he gets out of with his security and he gets out and goes, ah, Sarah, I've heard so much about you. And I was like, uh, a little bit scary. But yeah, it was, it was good to talk to him and you know, he's of the belief that he doesn't want to get rid of weightlifting, but we can't move forward as the way the organization is right now. So, um, we're making changes just too slow. That's the problem is it needs to be faster. Um, and unfortunately the way that all our laws and stuff are written means that it does move slowly. But we hope and we pray that we get the right decisions in june and it keeps us in the olympic movement because I think if we were to lose that it would be a killer for the sport.

Ian [17:17 - 17:31]
I think it would just be really weird for the olympics in general be like wrestling leaving right? It's like there's a part of the olympics that is about the history and the tradition of the games and I feel like weightlifting and wrestling for example, are two of the ones that kind of were there at the beginning, right?

Sarah Davies [17:31 - 17:32]
So

Ian [17:33 - 17:37]
confident enough support to keep it where it's supposed to be, right?

Sarah Davies [17:37 - 17:57]
Yeah. And the olympic motto is like faster, higher, stronger together. Like you kind of lose the stronger, if you get rid of weightlifting, like keep some of it with some of the track and field events, but you know, you lose that stronger, so hopefully we we get that movement in the right direction and keep the legacy of the olympic games realistically.

Chad [17:59 - 18:13]
Yeah, Sarah, you're a powerhouse, I have to say like fighting the fight of the olympics and just like the weight lifting. I feel like just like it's amazing some of the stuff that you're really fighting, it's awesome that you have sort of a passion and want to get this stuff done.

Sarah Davies [18:14 - 18:23]
Thank you. I mean, my coach hates it sometimes you just focus on your own training and like I like being busy and there's no point focusing on my training if there's nothing to train for.

Chad [18:23 - 18:31]
I mean, that's that's a fair point. Absolutely. I mean, I get it. I totally get it. I do want to talk about obviously weightlifting. Um

Sarah Davies [18:31 - 18:32]
I would love

Chad [18:32 - 18:38]
to hear more about your the fitness side of things. So like you were doing the beauty pageantry and then

Sarah Davies [18:38 - 18:38]
you

Chad [18:38 - 18:47]
turned so and you said you mentioned you did golf when you're a little younger, like what made you get into weightlifting initially? What was the draw for you?

Sarah Davies [18:48 - 20:11]
Um so basically my, my ex partner, my ex fiance, which was interesting story in itself, but he was a weightlifter um Training for London 2012 um and our national center was in Leeds, which is where I went to university? So I met him um and we've been dating about six months and we were back down in London, which is where he's originally from. Um and also where Zoe Smith is from there, both from the same weight lifting gym. So I was down there, I was basically just watching him and Zoe train and they were both like, come on, give it a try. So I gave it a try. They were like, this is a snatch, do it. So I snatched 30 kg and clean and jerk 40 kg and I was like, ah, this is quite fun, I'm quite good at it, lets you know, keep doing it and keep training and I've been a student, so I just drunk a lot and was out of shape for me, what I call probably skinny fat now, like I wasn't overweight, but you know, there wasn't any sort of definition and I was like, this is fun and it will give me something to do and to train because I just used to be that person that would go in the gym and do a couple of sets on the machine and whatever else and not really know what I was doing. Um just because we didn't have the education out there, I don't think for, you know, social media wasn't what it is now. And um, so yeah, I just kind of fell into weightlifting and it turned out I was quite good at it.

Ian [20:12 - 20:21]
Yeah, Now are you trying to say skinny fat isn't desired body type, because some of us just carry it around naturally.

Chad [20:21 - 20:27]
Uh me and Ian have a little bit of uh we we were skinny fat at one point for sure.

Ian [20:28 - 20:30]
Yeah, we definitely are trying to, you

Chad [20:30 - 20:31]
know, Yeah,

Ian [20:31 - 21:08]
we know what that's all about. I remember the first time I snatched the story I've told before, I was an empty barbell, I'm learning how to do it and have like, a one on one instruction thing, I, you know, you're concentrating on all the cues, ended up throwing the bar up over my head and it just pulled me back and I just fell over and like, everyone in the gym went silent and just stared over me and I heard a couple of pickles in the background and I was like, well, welcome to uh weightlifting because I had done endurance for before that, and I just kept getting hurt, and I was like, I need some strength based. So I did that and I wanted to mention this, I did my first Iron Man in bolton

Sarah Davies [21:09 - 21:12]
Nice, which is the original Iron Man,

Ian [21:12 - 21:35]
it's one of them. Yeah, so my wife's family's from Liverpool, so when I had trained to get ready for Iron Man, I was like, all right, I need one that's going to fit in my summer schedule, and bolton was like, whatever, an hour change. So just zipped up and did that and got, you know, devastated by some of the hills and things that are up in that area.

Sarah Davies [21:35 - 21:39]
You're getting close to my hometown, going up that part of the country.

Ian [21:40 - 21:43]
Anyway, I thought that was a funny little.

Chad [21:43 - 21:45]
I knew you'd have to throw that in there. I

Ian [21:45 - 21:47]
had to, everyone,

Chad [21:47 - 21:51]
everyone listening to this knows knows that's a good it's a good story though. It's a good

Ian [21:51 - 21:55]
story story. I

Chad [21:55 - 21:56]
wanted to ask Sarah. So,

Sarah Davies [21:56 - 21:57]
how so

Chad [21:57 - 22:02]
your you felt naturally good at weightlifting? How long did it take you to get to sort of a professional level?

Sarah Davies [22:04 - 22:05]
Depends on your definition of professional.

Chad [22:07 - 22:07]
Yeah,

Sarah Davies [22:08 - 23:44]
So I started September 2011. I did a regional meet in the november. Um actually qualified for my first nationals because no one did weightlifting then. So the qualification standards were super low, like I had to do a 90 kg total to qualify. What was the old, 63 kg class? Um so qualified for my first english championships went and competed in that in like february time And won a medal because there was three women in my weight class. Um and then I found myself, so that was like February 2012. I then found myself competing at The British championships in like May 2012, which is our final Olympic qualifier for the rest of them for like for London 2012, which was unbelievable too. I remember like I was thinking about this the other day I was competing alongside Zoe Smith Emily. Godly and comfort to those to the olympic qualification event and then you fast forward two olympic cycles and me Emily and Zoe were free of four of our olympic team for 2020. So, it's um quite a surreal thing really to have gone from there to there in that period of time and beyond the journey together. Um but yeah, I made my first international in 2014. I went to the european championships and then went to commonwealth Games in Glasgow in Scotland in 2014, which was, you know, 2.5 years in the game and onto a

Ian [23:44 - 23:52]
That's a wild ascension, isn't it? Like from 90 kg total to Your current total? Is what? 2, 12,

Sarah Davies [23:52 - 23:54]
34

Ian [23:54 - 23:58]
To 34. All right, because you're a clean 127, right? That's what you did this

Sarah Davies [23:58 - 24:05]
world. I did 1 30 to 1 27 in Tokyo and then I'll forgive you. That's new news. So, you're forgiven.

Ian [24:05 - 24:25]
No, I was watching it. I was keeping up with what you were doing at the world, so, and just for those listeners who don't know what a total means. So the total is your clean and jerk and snatch weights put together. So, um at the end of a weightlifting meet, is it right, you can you get medals in each lift and then an overall medal, is it like three medals awarded at meat, Is that how it works?

Sarah Davies [24:25 - 24:42]
Yeah, generally it depends, so like olympics and commonwealth games, they only do for your total, but for world's continentals, they do individuals so you can get snatch clean and jerk and total medals. Um so that's pretty cool and much more fun to come home with more

Chad [24:42 - 24:47]
jewelry. So like, you

Sarah Davies [24:47 - 24:47]
like

Chad [24:48 - 25:02]
rose to a professional level pretty quickly, When did you start thinking that you wanted to be an Olympian? Like, did you ever dream of this? Or did it just sort of like you just continue rising just like yeah, if olympics are they're they're they're like, how did that happen?

Sarah Davies [25:02 - 27:47]
I think like, I always had the dream too, go to a commonwealth games and olympic games as a kid. Like I remember as a gymnast as a kid watching Manchester 2000 and two commonwealth games, which was like, that's like an hour from where I grew up, I remember watching that, thinking how cool it would be to put on an England tracksuit and represent them at the commonwealth games and then, you know, to be heading to Glasgow, which is basically, you know, it's in Scotland and we complete a separate home nations, but basically a Games on home soil, like when I retired from gymnastics, I never thought I'd get the opportunity and then to find myself, they're like, I mean, I had a terrible competition because I put like I was so nervous and like this childhood dream come true that um But in terms of the olympics like it was it's something I've always wanted to achieve and like I started weightlifting and I was like you know I'm going to go to olympics like that is my goal. Um And then as you get closer and closer to achieving that goal you go quite like to be olympic medalist. Um And obviously like in Tokyo if you've seen it I went for for a do or die for a silver medal which just wasn't meant to be. But um You know on to Paris. Um but yeah I probably hadn't been lifting that long. I think watching London 2012 like I actually went and watched in person was definitely a huge kind of motivator for me to see that. And obviously like the home crowd of the Olympics like it'd be nice to do an olympics with a crowd. I'm not gonna lie that to the atmosphere in that arena in London was was phenomenal. Even just around London was so cool and I think that's probably part of it. Like you know unfortunately I think we lost quite a lot of the olympic legacy and it didn't get followed through as well as it could have done in the U. K. Um But to be around London at that time and to be able to be in one of the arenas. It was like I want this experience I want to lift on that stage with the olympic rings behind me and to you know be able to do all of those things. So yeah it was probably quite soon that I was like that's gonna be my goal. Um It would have been nice to go to Rio but given my time in the sport it was one of those that like we'll try and go and it'd be nice to go but realistically it's not my target games. My target games was always going to be Tokyo given when I started the sport um I came pretty close to Rio and on reflection I believe I could go like soon enough whereas if I had that belief in myself a little bit sooner um it might have been a different story but you know it's all the way it's supposed to work out and realistically I didn't have the experience under my belt competing internationally to be able to perform at that level in rio. So um yeah all the way it's supposed to pan out. I guess

Ian [27:47 - 28:06]
one of the things I love watching your lifting is your you do show your emotion like when you won the silver at the worlds like your elation was obvious you're on your knees crying after you did your cleaning jerk and then the same at the olympics. I remember seeing you after missing just like you'd see how despondent you were an upset

Sarah Davies [28:06 - 28:06]
as

Ian [28:07 - 28:17]
and it also you can come back to your pre lift routine, which I want to get where you're like pacing like an angry lion behind the bar looking like it's done, done you wrong and then you approach the bar.

Sarah Davies [28:18 - 31:13]
Yeah, I mean, I'm always like, it gets me in trouble, like I've got an expressive face like and it gets me in trouble sometimes because I pull faces and then people like see me doing it. Um but yeah, I mean that moment for that, that medal at worlds was just, I've been so close so many times obviously, like I compete in a in a middleweight glass, which is average size, which therefore makes it more densely populated and makes it harder for medals and you know, I didn't get any continental or world medals until this year and I've just been unlucky previously with Europeans, like I've had so many fourth places and come so close and there's been, you know, Russians there that shouldn't have been there, they should have been serving a ban and just seemed to have been one thing after another that just like I just didn't have a little bit of luck on my side. Um and I remember at worlds, obviously I just moved up a weight class And I watched the 64 is the day before and I spoke to a few of my friends, I'm like, oh You know, I have had world medals at 60 for like the standard was this and that and they're like, but you've made the decision, there's no point reflecting on it and like, and I cried that night like I got myself in a right state and our team manager now knows how to stop us crying, he's like because we all have like false eyelashes on, he's like if you keep crying, which shows you a team manager, a bunch of women, doesn't it realistically? Um but yeah, so that that bothered me and then to, you know, my my goal for for world was to just go out there and have fun and not get caught up on trying to hit certain numbers and trying to win medals or whatever it was, it was like let's just go out there and remember to have fun on a platform because I think you know the way that the qualification work for Tokyo and obviously like my result, I'd forgotten my love for the sport in a way. Um so my goal was to just go out there and have fun and for that to then transpire in the way that it did was just, It was just so many years of like disappointment of bad luck that just literally came out after that last lift and you know, my friends afterwards that I've spoken to about the 64 results were like, are you still sad that you didn't lift at 64 and I'm like like, I know you're right and I hate that you're right. But yeah, to have that To have that moment was really special. And a really good way to round out, after you know, realistically I was disappointed in Tokyo. I know I shouldn't be disappointed with 1/5 place finish at olympic games, but when you've been so close and there's a high level athlete, you're always striving for that little bit more. Um And in terms of my pre lift routine, people are always like, oh, you look like you're really staring down the bath and I am, but I'm also just checking it's loaded right? Because I've had a couple of competitions where it's not been loaded, right? So now it's just kind of habit that I just checked both ends of the bar and that it's got the right weight on it. So

Ian [31:13 - 31:18]
you're just angrily doing math in your head, You're like, oh God, this better be 100 and two kg or I'm gonna.

Sarah Davies [31:19 - 31:37]
Yeah, exactly. And and it's also that thing, it's like, it's a pre lift routine, like it's just the same every time. Um and I've been in a position where the clock is running down and I'm struggling for time and stuff, but I still do the same pre lift routine, It's just normally like a little bit sped up

Chad [31:37 - 31:53]
the pre lift routine? Like obviously it's practices like, is that really like, it's very like sort of casual or do you have a few things that you're sort of checking off other than just checking the way it's like, is there other things that you're sort of looking at? Like there go to cues that you sort of rehearse back in your in your mind before you step up to the bar?

Sarah Davies [31:54 - 33:20]
Yeah, I mean that routine is something that just kind of developed over time, it's not something that is, you know, particularly like I do this for that reason or whatever. Um Generally I'll wait at the back of the platform as well for the 32nd buzzer to go, because otherwise if you're setting yourself and it goes off, it can be a little bit off putting. So quite often I wait to hear that before I then start my full set up of getting my hands on the bath. Um I put my hands on the bar and I put my my hook, so I put, yeah, I put my right hand on the bottom, I left and put my hook up in and I put my hook up in my right hand, I don't know why it's just something that, that I do, and then in terms of cues, like there'll be a couple of like really basic things that I think about, depending on what we've worked on in training, but um it'll be super simple, like back type and then my cue for worlds was literally to hear the bar come up my knee sleeves to make sure it's close enough. So I, so because the thing is the movement happens so quickly and obviously in competition is not the time to make technical changes. Um, so it's about just thinking about little simple things that are gonna get you the right thing. So just hearing that noise of the bar scrape up my knee sleeves. I know the bars in the right place, and with my 10 to snatch from world, I hear it, and I think I've already started celebrating while the bars about my mid thigh, because I know it came up my knee sleeves, therefore, I know it's in the right place and it's going to end up above my head, so yeah,

Chad [33:20 - 33:36]
that's cool. I mean, and you said you're a golfer and I've taken up golf as a passion the past few years, golf is very much like you don't think in the swing during execution, but it sounds like when you're up on the stage, like you you do have a few things that you're trying to, I

Sarah Davies [33:36 - 33:46]
guess it's like with golf, you think as you're setting yourself up, like your feet, right, your hands right? And it's the same with weightlifting, like in that start position you're thinking, but then as soon as that bar starts moving,

Chad [33:47 - 33:47]
you

Sarah Davies [33:47 - 34:08]
can't make changes. Yeah, like the science, you can't get that signal from brain to body fast enough for the speed of the movement in the same way as a golf swing. So if your starts right and that first maybe like inch that it comes off the floor then it's going to be in the right place. But like you can't think past that because it's just pull and pray. That's what I

Chad [34:08 - 34:54]
say. I didn't want to have a question. Cause you you said you you you didn't go to rio and then you guys were focused on Tokyo how like I've always wanted to ask this to an Olympian because obviously your cycle is so long. Like how do you stay motivated? How do you Everyone's very a lot of people are very short term thinkers and even short term in since like two years. But if you ask someone like what do you want to do in five years? Or like most people are like uh I don't know but like an olympic athlete is looking at a four year cycle. Like how do you stay motivated? How do you stay so driven towards what you want to do knowing that like every day leads up to this like one event.

Sarah Davies [34:55 - 36:32]
Yeah. I mean I guess we're fortunate in the U. K. The same way for you guys in Canada is that we get commonwealth games which falls in the middle of those cycles. Um Which kind of then breaks it into like two year chunks for us instead. Um But yeah it's such a weird one like you find yourself like in your life being planned in olympic cycles, like regardless of what else you're doing, and, you know, I said earlier, like it was my ex fiance that got me into weightlifting, like, the wedding was planned to be around weightlifting competitions and around olympic cycles and all that kind of stuff, like it just you don't even think about it, that people are like, you realize you're doing that and you're like, that's just my life, that's just how like how things get get planned, but it's about you have that longer term goal, but it's about breaking that down into smaller chunks. Um So it's like, okay, what you're gonna do? So even if you look at like a two year cycle from olympics, the commonwealth, it's like, okay, what we got in between, and it's like, right, we've got european championships, we've got World Championships, we've got Nationals, whatever it is, and breaking it down into those chunks and we'll choose which competitions we peak for. So like, I've got nationals next weekend, but I'm not I'm not peeking for it, I'm just gonna kind of train through it because I've got Europeans in like april may time, which is the goal, so there's no point me peeking and pushing for for nationals before then going on to Europeans, so um it's about breaking those goals down the same way with with anybody with any goal, it's like, okay, if you want to get to here, you've got to do X, y and Z to get there. Um So it's about setting those smaller goals to motivate you in whatever that is

Ian [36:33 - 36:56]
now, you said you had a gymnastics background and you can see crossfit growing is like a wild sport. Would you ever consider jumping over? I know you're friends with craig Ritchie and Jazz and I know they have that kind of connection as well. So like, you see the money being made now in this sport, these people are actually getting a little paychecks. So is that something you would think post, are you gonna just kind of move on after?

Sarah Davies [36:56 - 39:03]
I mean, people ask me, it's that thing of like and and that person, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it fully, and it's that point when I get to paris in 2024 I'm 32 I'm like, okay, do I want to be a full time athlete still and spend all of my time in the gym, because I'm like, if I'm gonna do it, I'm like, I'm going to the games like that, that would be my mind set on it. Um So I finding that balance and having that time away from being in the gym all the time. I actually, I told my teammate Emily Godly, that we do a pairs crossfit competition at some point, she is in much better shape than me at the minute, she's lost words away since Tokyo have been doing fitness stuff so and I've gone up a weight class so we've just shifted. Um It's something that I consider doing like for fun and to keep me fit but I think I'd have to be really careful to not end up down this path of trying to be the best. Which is generally what I seem to do when I try and do something. So. But I mean I look at it from From a point of view like because I coach weightlifting so it's like if I look at it from a business perspective it would 100% make sense for me to compete in crossfit competitions and and build the brand further and build my weightlifting coaching further which you know a few years ago I'm like oh no it's just a business just exists to take over and help me like support my weight lifting because we don't get any like anything from the government. Um But now I'm like actually this has the capacity to grow and be bigger. And you look at some of the other like organizations that do online programming and stuff like that. Like if I was to compete in crossfit it would keep my name relevant and I think that's part of the problem that we have in the U. K. Is like if you're not a current weightlifter people don't tend to bother with you for coaching unless you're coaching you know the the current people. So um there's a possibility but maybe I'll give it a few years and go to the games as a master or something I don't know. Never say never. But it's not on the radar as such at the minute.

Ian [39:04 - 39:09]
We just had a weightlifter over here at a local gym. You might know him. Dmitry cloak off. Heard of him.

Sarah Davies [39:09 - 39:11]
I

Ian [39:11 - 39:35]
attended I attended this workshop and he just told me I have weak clouds your quads per week most of the time as we're doing things. All his his tagline was what the fund is this year. So that was quite an experience seeing him do that because he's trying to do the same thing right. Stay relevant by coming into cross because he's now doing these like tours around everywhere.

Chad [39:35 - 39:42]
That was a great session. That was a great session. You you mentioned um I'm curious how many hours a day are you in the gym?

Sarah Davies [39:43 - 42:09]
He said not that much. Um three Hours 5 times a week. Um But like we've waited been training a lot of it and stuff outside of the gym of your recovery and stretching. Rolling all that kind of stuff which I just prefer to do at home with the dog because it's much nicer to be at home than in a cold gym at the minute. So. Yeah it's um the actual training time in terms of like how long some other elite sport people spend doing their actual craft? I think that weightlifting is quite minimal on that. But it's the other stuff around it being able to recover so you can get in the next session and push yourself and even stuff like sleep. Like people underrate sleep like you're not to recover um and get back to it if you're not sleeping properly. And people come from programs and they're like, I want to do like eight sessions a week of weightlifting and I'm like, you know what, I do five sessions a week of weightlifting, right? And you're and they're like, yeah but you know I'm working 9 to 5 in London and it's quite often runs over and we have dinners and stuff after work and you know with clients and I've got two kids and a wife and I'm like so I'm gonna go at six a.m. And I'm gonna go again at eight p.m. And I'm like no I'm not writing that program, like you're a recreational athlete, you're doing it for fun. You do not need to train that much because you'll just kill yourself. There's no way you can recover when you've got a busy lifestyle, you've got a family and also there's more to life than weightlifting. Like enjoy time with your kids and look after the other like facets of your health and I think that's what people forget they're like, you know, I need to be physically active to be fit and to be healthy, but actually, what are the effects that that's having on your personal life, your social health, your, like, mental health, like, if you're so fixated on something and it's controlling every part of your life, it's actually probably not making you any healthier, it's probably making you more unhealthy in other areas, you might be physically fitter and physically healthier, but like, where is that affecting? And, you know, people do it with, like, the nutrition and they're like, oh yeah, you know, I've not been out for the girls with for drinks for like two years or whatever it is, and I'm like, why? Like, there's more to your life than that, like, it shouldn't be controlling your social life, it shouldn't be affecting you, doing those things that are important to you, like, even I do that, like going to the olympic games and winning world medals, like, I think people can often get pulled into taking it too seriously, and then it ends up having a negative effect.

Ian [42:10 - 42:28]
So you went from 64 to 71 did you will move on to nutrition? I guess so, because just cause that segways perfectly, and I heard on that podcast that was last week, you were saying your calorie intake is around 20 to 2500, so when you were trying to move up weight classes with, just mostly Yorkshire puddings that you did, Yorkshire puddings and or what I

Sarah Davies [42:28 - 42:29]
love it, you should put

Ian [42:29 - 42:31]
it.

Sarah Davies [42:31 - 44:08]
Yeah, I mean, so basically, like, because the athlete that I'm like, I'm on the scales every morning normally just to keep an eye on stuff, especially when I was competing at 60 for just to keep a check on it, see how my body responds to certain things. And after Tokyo it was kind of like took the scales away and was like, I'm just going to be a normal person and just let my body do what it does, and I'll go out and celebrate for meals with people and I'll go out for cocktails and and I just basically lived as a normal person for two months, three months and just didn't go in the gym and went on holiday and whatever else. And naturally my body from that point got to about 68 68.5 kg, um just from just not being restrictive. Um and then after that, I have kind of pushed it a little bit, but when you're trying to gain weight, people like that sounds great, but when you're trying to do it like actively and within a time frame, like it's hard and you're constantly trying to put food in your face and just you get bored of chewing. So I'm now at a point that I'm drinking something like quite a lot of my calories on top of my meals, so like protein shakes, like during training, which I've always done, but then also having an extra like carb shake and training, so just getting in some extra calories from that and um I've always drunk like diet drinks, like diet coke, whatever it is, and actually just switching that to be like regular and like lemonade or whatever that's got sugar in it, like just trying to get the calories in as many ways as possible without being too hard. Like I want to get a milkshake yesterday, like just trying to just keep the calories in, it's just it's a lot harder than people think it is.

Ian [44:08 - 44:11]
Come on sir, it wasn't just a milkshake. I saw what else is there to,

Sarah Davies [44:11 - 44:18]
I don't know, flurry to use

Chad [44:18 - 44:21]
you use RP nutrition right?

Sarah Davies [44:21 - 45:28]
Yeah, yeah, I'm working with one of the coaches at RP strength which is which is really useful like so I've got my nutrition qualification, I did of course here and I have that ability. I think the thing with nutrition is it's just that accountability, like it's just having someone to help you in whichever way you're doing it. Um But yeah, just that support, like, so I spoke to my coach yesterday for it and he's like, how are you finding it, like I know it's tough to to put on that and and to do it and I'm like, I'm not gonna lie, I'm struggling just one getting the volume in and and to like I said, just seeing that change in my body like I've not looked like this ever, so just trying to deal with that and like the mentor that comes with it and I know that, you know, once I put the muscle on, like I'll start converting it into muscle, but it's that weird in between stage and you're like, oh, I don't know how I feel about looking like this and yeah, but it's that thing of it, it's for performance and that's the mindset I have to have, is that of an athlete. Um, and knowing that it will be worth it and that will be how I clean and 140 kg or whatever is like, which looks really cool on the way to think box, you get the 2 25 under 10.

Chad [45:28 - 45:31]
There you go. That's what it's all about.

Sarah Davies [45:32 - 45:32]
That's

Ian [45:32 - 45:35]
right. It's gotta look good when you're doing this, that's for sure.

Sarah Davies [45:35 - 45:36]
Exactly.

Chad [45:36 - 46:21]
Yeah, I know, I know, I feel like I just did a mass 12 week mass with RP um, Me and Ian have talked with us because um, it takes a lot of commitment because you're gonna obviously gain fat. You're not just gonna gain X amount of muscle. And so there is definitely, I would say right now I'm in maintenance to try to keep it away. So I'm definitely this situation just like, man, like I'm looking a little pudgy in places, but I know I need to like stretch it another six weeks or so and then I can do like if I want to do like a cut or just, you know, start turning into muscle, right? But there is definitely a time difference where it's like, man, It's a little bit of struggle sometimes and I had to put 4000 calories in a pretty tall person and some days were just like, it's a chore.

Sarah Davies [46:21 - 46:31]
Yeah, it's just it's tough and I think, you know, it's hard. But and then yesterday I went and got a sauna just for recovery and I like put on my bikini and I was like, oh,

Chad [46:31 - 46:35]
that's why we do this in the winter time, right? Yes.

Sarah Davies [46:36 - 46:37]
Yeah. So,

Ian [46:37 - 46:51]
So Sarah do you then try and get your weight above 71? Do you cut down to, yeah, you cut down for your weight class to 71. And like when it was 64, are you having to cut before, is it like, what's the way in process before weight lifting?

Sarah Davies [46:51 - 48:58]
Yeah. So generally I'll sit, so when I was 64 I was sitting like 66 66 a half. And I cut back in two to make weight, but that would just be through like manipulation of like carbs and water and stuff so that it's not you're not losing any real mass with it. And it's stuff that's easy to get back into your system. Um So for weigh in is two hours before competition, so you can't cut too hard. Like if people have seen quite often like boxing and martial arts and stuff and you basically see the coach like holding them up on the scales because they're that dehydrated and that depleted, but you can't do that in weightlifting because the turnaround is too quick. Um So when it comes to dehydration, it's basically like I just cut out water for the last 24 hours, which will lose about a kilo. Um So I I know that I can do that and you can also rehydrate that pretty efficiently in about half hour with like, I don't know, like rehydration, that power rate, whatever people have, you can get that back in without, you know, any real issues. I mean, the last couple of competitions that I made weight for, um I got full for drug testing and do a sample within 20 minutes, so clearly I'm rehydrated enough to be able to then do that after competition. Um So that that shows you did a good job of making weight really and getting back in the system. But yeah, for 70 one's like in the build up to world, I wasn't heavy enough yet, I was sitting at like 70.5 and then we got out to world, it just just kept dropping. I saw like 69 on the scales together, I was like, oh no, but that's it's kind of just nerves as well, like bring some weight off you just naturally, like you You fret and sweating and your stomach starts turning and whatever else. Um so I'm lifting at nationals in the 76es because I'm trying and failing trying to get to 73 um to kind of maintain that then we've got Europeans in in April time, I'll cut back into 71. Um So I've got that ability to gain that masses of 73 then cut in and for me like nationals isn't a priority as we said, so um turn off at 76 see what happens there,

Ian [48:59 - 49:05]
So in one year you're going to compete at 64 and 76, did you say?

Chad [49:05 - 49:06]
Yeah,

Sarah Davies [49:06 - 49:36]
Yeah, 64, 71 and 76. My time off after world ended up being a bit longer than I wanted it to be, I ended up getting sick after new year's, so I wasn't able to get back into training as soon because I would have liked to have had a crack at the 76 national records because then I would have had them all the way through all three weight classes, but I'm not sure I'm back in good enough shape yet because nine British records sounded pretty cool. Just six for now and then we'll work on the 76 is another time.

Chad [49:37 - 49:45]
That's that's a crazy goal. And for people that aren't converting that that's like £25 I think, something like

Sarah Davies [49:45 - 49:45]
that.

Ian [49:45 - 49:50]
Yeah, 10, 25, 20-25 lbs in a year.

Chad [49:50 - 49:53]
Yeah. Total from 64 to 70. That's crazy.

Ian [49:54 - 49:54]
It's not just

Chad [49:55 - 49:57]
amazing, you know,

Sarah Davies [49:57 - 49:58]
a

Chad [49:58 - 50:25]
little bit, yeah, you gotta go a little bit, come on when you're doing all you can eat sushi and taking care of it. I wanted to talk one last topic. Um you were mentioning recovery. So I know that you were mentioning sleep. What are some of the recovery protocols that you sort of come and commonly do just during while you're at home? Do you do contrast therapy sona. Do you do a lot of like uh fashion stretching? What kind of stuff do you really do?

Sarah Davies [50:25 - 52:24]
Yeah. So sleep. I go in the sauna. I don't like the cold so you won't ever catch me doing contrast therapy water is not like I'm not really a massive water baby anyway and like cold water is a definite now. Um So yeah, I'll go and sit in the sauna for 25 30 minutes just for relaxation and like it's good for muscles and if you look at the research and stuff. But more than anything and this is like, it's sad that I have to do that, but it's like It's 30 minutes without my phone in my hand, like just sat just me like in a sauna and you know, you'll find random people in there and they'll start talking to you or whatever. But it's just that that time to just switch off and I think that's important especially you know given what I do and realistically like social media is part of my job, like my social media, my sponsors bringing a basic income for me now, which means I've kind of got to be on it and I'm always trying to be interactive with it because you know people send me messages and they're like oh thank you so much for applying, I'm like you've taken time out your day to ask me a question like I'm going to try and get back to you like even like after Tokyo, I had so many messages and it took me months to get through but eventually like I tried to reply in some capacity to everybody. Um So yeah just taking that time out and then just other stuff like rolling and stretching. Um Trying to check in every couple of weeks with my physio just to make sure everything's moving the way it should be a massage therapy as well. Um But you know the things with like massage and physio, like you can pretty much if you don't have an injury, you can keep on top of that stuff yourself with your rolling and you're stretching, like we don't like doing it, I don't like doing it, nobody likes doing it. Um But that's the stuff that makes a difference and if you can roll and stretch for 20 minutes after a session you're gonna feel better going in the next day and it won't take us long to warm up. Whereas you don't do that stuff, it takes you that extra 20 minutes just to warm up properly. So if you just get it done at the end of your session, it's gonna benefit you for tomorrow or the next day whenever you next train.

Chad [52:25 - 52:50]
Yeah, I was gonna say we've had, we had a few podcasts about what we call sort of proactive recovery and just sort of staying ahead of the aches and pains along the way, Especially for, you know, recreational athletes. You know, a lot of people like to go to the gym and I like to go pretty hard and they kind of neglect the mobility and neglect the recovery session and then they come to the gym the next day and they're, you know, like why, why am I hurt, you know? So that's, that's good to hear.

Sarah Davies [52:50 - 52:50]
Yeah,

Ian [52:52 - 53:17]
I just loved going back to nutrition. I feel like some people gets so tight on their nutrition, trying to be perfect with it, right? And it's so refreshing to hear someone who is a high achieving athlete just saying it's okay to relax and it's okay to have a Mcflurry every once in a while and I know we're laughing about that, but it's like those things are good for your mental health, right? It's like that little, that thing for sure.

Sarah Davies [53:21 - 54:28]
Like even when I'm like hard, dying, like, I mean 2015, I actually cut to the old 58 kg class, which was a bad idea. I said like a lollipop had a big head on a tiny body. Um and even then like I keep that stuff in like, and I'd have still a little bit of chocolate every day or a little bit of sweets or whatever it is because it's that thing that if you restrict it completely and you don't allow yourself to have it, you just end up with this binge like, and then you just undo all the hard work and you just fall off the wagon. Whereas actually if you, you keep a little bit of it inconsistently, like that stops that happening. And I think that's where people go wrong, like, yeah, okay if you're following a macro or calorie plan, just fear into it. Like it's not the end of the world and if that's going to keep you mentally in a better place because you can go out for dinner with your family and just make smart choices when you do so, but you're still enjoying the experience of going out and you're not eating prep food out of the top where like, I just can't think of anything worse than that prep life, you're like mental health, like it's just eating the same thing every day. Like the thought of it just, no, it's just not for me. So

Ian [54:28 - 54:53]
then sarah, what are your go to sweets then like, I love fruit pastels and I love like roundtree just makes a quality candy and I also will say all the smarties Cadbury's chocolate in England is so different than the chocolate we get over here. So I'll go deep. Like we just had christmas, the christmas Cadbury like you know the box that comes in the shape of a stocking and it has all the different plates and all that. So what's your go 2s?

Sarah Davies [54:53 - 55:18]
Yeah, so chocolate is different here. So like chocolate is different for you guys because of the temperatures and stuff you get. So it has different chemicals in to stop it melting basically. Whereas it's cold and rainy in England all the time. So we don't need that. I'm actually a Haribo fan. I'm not sure how much however you guys get, but so I go and compete in Germany or do without covid um, which is actually where Haribo is from and it actually tastes different

Chad [55:18 - 55:19]
like a little bit

Sarah Davies [55:19 - 55:26]
with the chocolate, like Haribo from Germany I guess because it's fresher and it's not traveled like it's softer. Like it just tastes different. I can't

Chad [55:26 - 55:30]
even german and we actually imported from Germany instead of buying it here.

Sarah Davies [55:30 - 55:44]
Yeah, I get some of my like german friends to send me sometimes, but like when I go and do Bundesliga. So I fly like friday to sunday. So I just take like a rucksack but I take a rucksack and then I can carry on bag, but like with nothing in it to go out there and I just bring it back full of

Ian [55:45 - 55:49]
Yeah,

Sarah Davies [55:49 - 55:53]
that's my one and like the sour sweet. I really like a sour sweet, That's where it's at.

Ian [55:53 - 55:57]
Yeah, that's it, that's the game changer.

Chad [55:57 - 56:08]
It's amazing. Awesome. Sarah. This has been amazing. I know, we don't take up too much of your time. Thank you so much for joining us today. It's been amazing. Thank you for sharing your story.

Ian [56:08 - 56:13]
Do you wanna plug quickly? Your weight lifting? Go

Sarah Davies [56:13 - 56:20]
on then. So yeah, I do online weightlifting programming. I mean, I do do seminars, it's almost to fly me into calendar. I'll quite

Chad [56:20 - 56:22]
happily. So

Sarah Davies [56:22 - 56:37]
you can find me, its wisdom for weightlifting. So wisdom and the number four weight lifting, um which is where my online programming and stuff is and where you can find that. But then find me on social media, it's just me, Sarah t underscore G B

Ian [56:37 - 56:39]
and channel back up and going, Barbell

Sarah Davies [56:39 - 56:56]
Queen Queen is back up and going, I've got someone helping me with it, which is a huge thing because editing is just not my jam, just, just that thing of like, it's just time to learn how to do it. But yeah, I'm getting better at that. There's some like worlds footage on there and some behind the scenes stuff too. So,

Chad [56:56 - 56:57]
um

Sarah Davies [56:57 - 56:58]
people are always intrigued by that

Chad [56:58 - 56:59]
and I don't think

Sarah Davies [56:59 - 57:02]
it's that exciting what other people do. So go check it

Chad [57:02 - 57:17]
out. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, Sarah and thanks everyone for listening. Uh, tune in next time for the next. I think we're coming up in the Crossfit Open soon, so we'll be talking about the Crossfit Open very soon. Thank you everyone.

Ian [57:17 - 57:19]
Perfect. Thank you.

Chad [57:23 - 57:24]
Yeah.