IRONMAN Athlete Rebuilds his Fitness at 43 years old with a Family & Career - Find out HOW?!?!

"Don't give yourself permission to fail" is the motto he uses with his alarm clocks, his workouts and his life!

What an inspiring episode to kick-off the New Year that truthfully felt more like a "Workshop" than a Podcast with Darryl King on Habits, Structure, Schedule and Routine! ✅

From his cross Canada journey on a Road Bike after University, to Ironman 70.3 Whistler & Muskoka, Darryl King is always up for a little challenge, dare or bet 😲

Our 2021 Biggest Transformation Award Winner "AKA" Athlete of the Year :-) Kicked off 2022 with an inspiring episode recapping his 5 year LP Journey with the LP Family and everything he has learned and absorbed about Training, Nutrition and Recovery! 

Darryl joined LP as a beat up Triathlete who was looking to build strength and get rid of his aches and pains! Before long he was hooked, training 5 days/week with the 6am Crew and feeling stronger and healthier than ever before! 

At 43 years old, Darryl has made his biggest transformation over the past 3 years, proving that he is getting better with age 😀In 2019 it started with Ironman 70.3 Whistler and now training with the LP Endurance Crew the crazy training schedule and journey continues! 

Find out some of Darryl's Secrets to Success that he hopes you can take and implement into your fitness journey as you balance the demands of family, career and fitness!

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Transcript

Chad [0:06 - 0:32]
community of members, coaches and professionals working as a team of like minded individuals in constant pursuit, connecting this exclusive group with the tools and resources they require to live a high performance lifestyle, conquering what life has thrown at them. We are living the fit life. Yeah, Welcome to the living that fit like podcast, episode 44. I'm your host and today I'm joined by coach, a DJ. Happy New Year buddy. How's it going?

Adam [0:33 - 0:37]
Pretty good pump to sit down with our yesterday.

Chad [0:38 - 0:49]
Yes, yes, it's the New year. It's our first podcast, January four and we're sitting down with our 2021 LP athlete of the year Daryl King, how's it going? Daryl

Darryl [0:50 - 0:57]
good chad. Thanks for having me excited to be here, 1st 1st time podcaster. So walk me through it. Easy guys.

Adam [0:58 - 1:11]
Darryl just reminded us that he's listened to all 40 for this will be 44 episodes. Pretty cool. So he's a die hard listener, but a great way to kick off the new year with their athlete of the year.

Darryl [1:11 - 1:18]
I got to be good because this is when everybody's listening wants to figure out what to do New Year's resolutions. This is a recruiting podcast. A

Adam [1:18 - 1:20]
that's right buddy. That's why we picked a special

Darryl [1:20 - 1:21]
guest.

Chad [1:22 - 1:26]
Yeah, we're expecting 1000 downloads as soon as we launch this. So just

Darryl [1:28 - 1:32]
Happy

Chad [1:33 - 1:36]
has a target on my back though. I know Aaron was going after him to

Adam [1:37 - 1:38]
creates his own

Chad [1:38 - 1:40]
target.

Adam [1:41 - 1:44]
He's got his, he's always creating battles everywhere.

Chad [1:45 - 1:47]
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

Adam [1:47 - 1:52]
I mean, Darryl do get out pretty good on the bike and the run quite frankly. But yeah,

Darryl [1:52 - 1:55]
we do. He beat me this year. We'll get to that probably though.

Adam [1:55 - 1:56]
But

Darryl [1:56 - 2:06]
yeah, it's funny. I don't know where like you're calling me athlete of the Year Adam, I got an award right here on my desk called biggest transformation somehow. That means athlete of the year. I'll take it right.

Adam [2:06 - 2:27]
We we, you know, it was an impromptu change and uh we thought it was fitting to toss in the athletes asterix there since you had an amazing year in the endurance world in traffic. Amazing couple of years. But this year was kind of a breakthrough and uh yeah, why not? We just made it up. We're rolling with it.

Chad [2:28 - 2:28]
I like

Darryl [2:28 - 2:29]
it, I

Chad [2:29 - 2:38]
like it, I like it. It's a bit more well rounded title. You know, biggest transformation sometimes implies, you know, you just changed physically,

Adam [2:38 - 2:39]
but I

Chad [2:39 - 2:42]
like how we change people all around. I like it.

Darryl [2:43 - 2:47]
Yeah, as do I for sure.

Chad [2:47 - 2:50]
Yeah, so it's a new year. It would be cool to celebrate

Adam [2:51 - 2:51]
your

Chad [2:51 - 2:52]
accomplishment. I know it's

Darryl [2:52 - 2:53]
also

Chad [2:53 - 2:57]
Uh your 5th anniversary of sort of living the fit life.

Darryl [2:57 - 2:58]
So

Chad [2:58 - 3:01]
It's cool to have you on the podcast. What is the 5th anniversary this month? Right.

Darryl [3:02 - 3:11]
Yeah, I think it's either late january, early february. I think. I think it was not quite a resolution joiner, but fairly close at the old

Adam [3:11 - 3:12]
place.

Darryl [3:12 - 3:14]
Yeah, we

Adam [3:14 - 3:18]
talk, we talk about that later. Can Darryl tell us what kick started them to join?

Chad [3:19 - 3:23]
Yeah, that's a good spot to start. Why did you first join? LP.

Darryl [3:23 - 3:32]
Yeah, good question. So, um, I I was doing some triathlons without a coach without a

Adam [3:32 - 3:32]
plan.

Darryl [3:33 - 3:34]
Um

Chad [3:35 - 3:35]
I

Darryl [3:35 - 4:45]
loved it, I loved doing it, loved the training and was just going hard, right? So I think we might, I'm sure you'll ask me about it later, but I was just run five minute kilometers and that was my training. So I run five minutes per kilometer in my runs and then for 57 then 503 and that was every run and off you go. And apparently that's a good way to hurt yourself among other things. So I started having injuries, um not easing into things I got, I had a really bad hip injury that I went to see physio before and then uh he told me, look, you got to strengthen up your glutes, you're doing bad things to yourself and you don't have any strength around that on the same time is still a member or not. But rob he worked, I worked with him, uh he was a member at LP and often days would limp around the office after a hard day and for the second day after a hard day and kind of tell me about all the exciting stuff, they're doing all the fun workouts and and the variety and stuff like that. I said, well it sounds kind of perfect. So showed up one day, got a one on one from Adam um my arms to wash my hair in the shower after and there we

Chad [4:45 - 4:55]
go. Um So yeah you're at the at the five the six a.m. Yeah six a.m. Classes, right?

Darryl [4:56 - 5:04]
I'm not sure other than on holidays, I've ever done anything but six a.m. Oh no that's wrong. I did a few five am like during covid. But yeah I'm either I'm

Adam [5:04 - 5:05]
six much

Darryl [5:05 - 5:14]
static. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah and I was at the old gym that was when there was left and and uh

Adam [5:15 - 5:15]
what was the

Darryl [5:15 - 5:17]
other one called lift and something else was

Adam [5:17 - 5:18]
happening.

Chad [5:20 - 5:24]
So your background, so you were doing a lot of endurance

Adam [5:24 - 5:25]
training.

Chad [5:25 - 5:29]
Well before you went to in your background, have you always been an endurance athlete?

Darryl [5:31 - 6:09]
Yeah. I mean when I was a kid I played hockey, I played high level hockey, played Triple A. All the way into the high school and then I got into high school sports which were way more fun. I didn't get screamed at all the time. Like you didn't hockey, no offense my coaches but they did um plus like you know it was great girls watched you and like it was fun and it was so yeah I started when I got into high school sports I did basketball, Volleyball, badminton, which isn't really a good support for girls to watch but it's fine. Uh, that high school, um, I think cross country to actually for a bit, which is endurance, went to university, I went to the university gym to stay fit, but I wasn't over like I didn't do a program anything. And then

Adam [6:10 - 6:10]
on a

Darryl [6:10 - 6:50]
bet at the end of university, some guys bet that they're gonna, my friend and I that we couldn't bike across Canada. So that started that really started the endurance thing is we did and we said, well yeah, we're going to bike across Canada. So June one or June two 22002, We flew to Vancouver while we flew that day before June two, we started August eight, I think we finished in ST. John's Newfoundland, three of us, one guy went to Winnipeg and then he dropped and then he knew he was going to and then two of us went all the way to ST john's and that really started the endurance career, I would say, wow!

Adam [6:50 - 7:00]
Yeah, we talked about this story so many times, but I'm so glad it came up if you don't hate biking after that, like

Darryl [7:00 - 7:14]
Yeah, yeah, we, we camped the whole time too, so we carried all our packs and stuff on the back. Uh, we say no hotel one night because it was like 38 degrees and it was in Thunder Bay and it was july 1st, so we were taking a rest day

Chad [7:16 - 7:17]
on any given day.

Darryl [7:17 - 7:34]
Yeah, I think we averaged 135 km a day. So that got longer as we went. We did, I think we did eight days over 200 km, the longest day was 240. Um, yeah, but I think we have, we averaged 135 km a day.

Chad [7:34 - 7:36]
And how old, how old were you?

Darryl [7:37 - 8:21]
Uh, sorry, at the end of university, So I'd say 21 it's not like I was not a bike or funny story, but I had to buy a bike just to do this. And this is a bet, right? Because you're not going to lose a bet. I had to buy a bike. So my buddy and I bought similar bikes and specialized bike. We go for a training ride in barry, that's where I grew up. And so we're shifting the gears and we both get into the same gear and can't get out. Like we could not figure out back then cell phones, you can just look up online how to change gears on the bike, so the brake shift or shift sideways, um, to, to shift, but we didn't know that. We had no idea that the brakes went sideways, we're 10 minutes into a ride, we're both in the same gear and now it's a single gear ride for the rest of the way, because we have no idea how to get out of

Chad [8:21 - 8:23]
it

Darryl [8:24 - 8:27]
and then a month later we're biking across Canada. It was

Chad [8:28 - 8:34]
and and obviously know like when we talk about training for something, you guys were not training for anything, just got up and went

Darryl [8:35 - 8:40]
that we did our training rides, we went to a Sega beach once. Uh

Adam [8:40 - 8:41]
my

Darryl [8:41 - 9:01]
My girlfriend at the time, now my wife, she lived in kitchener so we did a ride, we want to practice camping. So we wrote from Barry to Rockwood camped overnight, went to a big party in kitchener because we were 20 stayed overnight, went back to rock, would stay overnight, back to Barry and Loopy Vancouver. Here we go, wow.

Adam [9:01 - 9:26]
So this okay chad said that about training for it. But the iron cowboy who just did the 100 days, 100 Iron Man, he kind of talked like kind of like Daryl like you almost your fitness builds within the the like the the feet. So like it sounds like you guys started maybe with like 100 kids day Darryl and then your stamina actually built up.

Darryl [9:26 - 9:33]
Yeah, for sure. Well we started the mountains to write. So we started sometimes 50K a day because mountains is no joke

Adam [9:33 - 9:35]
right? So

Darryl [9:35 - 9:41]
but you gotta, you kinda gotta go west east because of the wind. Like you don't want to go east to west and be into the wind

Chad [9:43 - 9:43]
decision.

Darryl [9:44 - 9:55]
We almost didn't, my buddy was from ST john so we said well we'll start there because you live there. What a great place to start. But The Internet was still a little bit of a thing in 2002. A little research and

Chad [9:55 - 10:00]
I mean, yeah, I mean that's, I guess that's a lucky, I mean, you could have went wrong there. That would've been a different story I

Darryl [10:00 - 10:18]
guess. Yeah, any day that you're only going like in biking, I'm sure all the endurance people know this, but when you're going from a to B, like not in a loop, um if you're going point to point and the wind is in your face all day long, that is a tough well Adam, you did that up to, up to

Adam [10:18 - 10:19]
uh

Darryl [10:19 - 10:21]
Collingwood this year, right,

Adam [10:21 - 10:57]
chad would, yeah, it's kind of foreign, but if you're doing a loop, like half of it sucks and half of it's amazing. But if you're just going straight into it or whatever, that's not yeah, across Canada, that wouldn't be fun. But what about the grit, like Daryl, definitely, I I see that grit in him now, whether he's in the gym or he's in training and sometimes we say he has too much grit cause he's always, he loves to suffer and we try to get him to like smile while he's uh racing, but he's usually got his game face on, which is amazing.

Darryl [10:58 - 11:01]
Yeah, loves to suffer. That's, that's fun.

Chad [11:01 - 11:20]
That's such a cool, I've never heard that story so amazing. I'm always so grateful for like having this opportunity because like some of these stories, I don't like Adam Adam Adam has a chance to talk to everyone one on one. But like you always hear these things from people's past, I'm always happy to hear people's story before they came to El P.

Adam [11:20 - 11:21]
That's crazy.

Darryl [11:22 - 11:53]
Um And actually now that I'm remembering back to, I had a broken wrist all the way to Winnipeg doing it too, so I could cast on for the first half because uh well, pretty stupid story at the end of university after the bar, I decided to play Nicky Nicky nine door on the house for no reason, probably on a bed again, honestly, and I ran up the stairs and then was just being an idiot, ran away, fell down the stairs and broke my wrist and yeah, so I went from Vancouver to Winnipeg in a cast.

Adam [11:53 - 11:57]
We didn't think this trip wasn't may be a good

Darryl [11:57 - 12:03]
idea, we weren't quitting. It was a bad adam. Can't lose that.

Adam [12:03 - 12:06]
I got to get you on a few more things,

Darryl [12:06 - 12:07]
although

Adam [12:07 - 12:09]
it seems like you could go back.

Chad [12:10 - 12:39]
Yeah, he's not gonna back down after doing that. So then you're you're you do that when you're much younger, obviously life moves on you you jump in the endurance again, you're getting constantly hurt and then you jump in the into LP, what was that sort of initial sort of um you know, your initial sort of first year or whatever at LP. How is that? Like obviously it's a way different type of training and it sounds like what you are used to doing.

Darryl [12:40 - 13:10]
Yeah, it was way different. Um, I had gone, like I had had a good life membership and stuff when you, I don't know if I'm unique, I don't think I'm like, when you're 26 27 28 you get married, you start getting comfortable, you get a little bit unfit, you go to good life, you have no idea what to do. So you do bench press and curls off you go. Um, LP was so much better than that because I didn't have to think about it, right? Anything that you don't really like, I don't have to think about it. I can trust that the coaches,

Adam [13:10 - 13:11]
what

Darryl [13:11 - 13:17]
they're doing to get me fit to watch me and make sure I'm doing stuff right? Not gonna hurt

Adam [13:17 - 13:17]
myself.

Darryl [13:18 - 13:58]
And also, I mean, you guys know this, but there's so many motivated and fit people at L. P. That the sense of community and the effort that you give me anyway when there's other people doing it as well. It's just a monumental difference between doing it yourself. Just a monumental difference. Um, and yeah, I just, it was a little scary at first because there's a lot of fit people and, and there was a lot of fit people doing moves like snatches and clean and jerks that I had no idea what they were even called, let alone how to do them. Um But with the coach and with with people to assist and motivated members it was it was it

Adam [13:58 - 13:59]
wasn't, I

Darryl [13:59 - 14:10]
mean I was in and once I was in I was in maybe doubled three days a week for the first couple of months then was pretty well in five days a week, six a.m. Mhm.

Chad [14:11 - 14:15]
So the group training aspect of it kind of captured your sort of compared to this.

Darryl [14:16 - 14:30]
Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. Did anybody that I'm I'm always looking at the person beside me and seeing where they're at and seeing if I can beat them or not and if its weightlifting is definitely not, but the cardio stuff can be So

Chad [14:30 - 14:57]
so yeah, so your background being endurance, like with the the increase of weightlifting, whether you know squat bench dads or even when the olympic lifting, like how how how was that for you? Because obviously you just said it was very foreign but like did you find that after getting over that initial sort of um difficulty of that movement that you find value and then you just kind of knew right away that this was sort of the answer for you.

Darryl [14:57 - 15:08]
Yeah. Yeah. You know it's when you start anything new, right? You make huge gains in the beginning, right? All you start to get the movement pattern you start to get um

Adam [15:09 - 15:09]
I

Darryl [15:09 - 15:14]
don't know if it's central nervous system or your muscles that are supposed to do the work and then all of a sudden you make really huge gains

Adam [15:15 - 15:15]
but

Darryl [15:15 - 15:24]
which is motivating and then for me, once something becomes a uh habit then I'm gonna do it consistently right

Chad [15:24 - 15:25]
um The

Darryl [15:25 - 15:34]
most important thing out of all of this chat, I mean I love L. P. Now in the community but ever since I started I have never been injured from endurance at all

Adam [15:34 - 15:35]
anymore.

Darryl [15:35 - 15:42]
Right. Just the doing the strength in the off season and then during the season as well less but still doing it

Adam [15:42 - 15:43]
um

Darryl [15:43 - 15:45]
has made a huge difference in

Adam [15:46 - 15:46]
not

Darryl [15:46 - 15:51]
getting injured and even in the last part of endurance when you're getting tired and things start

Adam [15:51 - 15:51]
to

Darryl [15:52 - 16:09]
you start to get wobbly and things start to fall apart a little bit. All the course the core work that we do at LP just helps you to stay stable. Not run poorly, not run with bad form as as much as possible. Um It's just I haven't been injured since I started and that's the reason I started is because I was injured.

Adam [16:10 - 16:10]
Alright

Darryl [16:10 - 16:39]
so I mean that's the endurance side of it. But I I mean I love going, I love the people there. I just love the challenge every day too. Right? There's no there's no like when you go into good life and I do bench press and curls and then you leave. I mean there's a certain sense of accomplishment when you go in the morning and you look at what the work it is, you think, man, that's gonna suck. I'm not sure if I can finish that and then every day you finish it. How great a day of a way is that to start your day? Right? No, it's amazing.

Adam [16:39 - 16:49]
I feel like Daryl like to dig a little deeper. I feel like for the first couple of years triathlon kind of took the backseat because you did fall in love with LP so much

Darryl [16:50 - 16:50]
am

Adam [16:50 - 16:51]
I right saying that?

Darryl [16:51 - 16:52]
Absolutely you are.

Adam [16:53 - 17:03]
Yeah, and I think you just fell in love with those improvements and the progress and you always used to do shorter triathlons like sprints or olympics right?

Darryl [17:03 - 17:08]
Yeah, all those brands, all Olympics before, before I went to whistler in 2018

Adam [17:09 - 17:22]
and I feel like that the biggest thing for you there was like you maybe didn't have the strength to carry your, you know, under stamina over those distances to even dabble into them, right?

Darryl [17:23 - 17:24]
I think that's probably true.

Adam [17:25 - 17:25]
I think

Darryl [17:25 - 17:27]
that's that's definitely true.

Adam [17:28 - 17:28]
I

Chad [17:28 - 17:29]
think

Darryl [17:29 - 17:34]
the Opie endurance, endurance to, I think we probably will talk about it, I'm

Adam [17:34 - 17:34]
sure. But

Darryl [17:35 - 17:43]
um there's other things that make it easier to go longer and triathlons at them. And one thing is the group but also like safety. I don't love biking

Adam [17:43 - 17:45]
alone. Think

Darryl [17:45 - 17:46]
biking alone biking alone is

Adam [17:47 - 17:47]
when

Darryl [17:47 - 18:01]
traffic is not great And yeah, two or three in our case sometimes 15 bikes to the mix in the community it's super safe, it's far safer and far more motivating. It's just it's better. I can't stress enough how

Adam [18:01 - 18:02]
much I

Darryl [18:02 - 18:14]
love biking in a group for the safety not the challenge but the safety to which I never did back then adam so I'm only going for 50 km rides because I'm trying to find roads, there's not gonna be any cars and that kind of thing.

Adam [18:15 - 19:26]
That makes so much sense. Yeah I remember Darryl coming in the L. P. And he actually has it's a pretty awesome mobility so if anything we we figured out that his injuries were coming from like the instability that he had and building the strength like he said has made such a difference. So it's amazing how different athletes come in. Some come in like so stiff that they can't move and they have their own share of aches and pains and then other athletes like Darryl come in and they're super mobile but that's causing some of those same aches and pains and issues and for Darryl it was just we need to get stronger right and move better and move more compact and and crisp and now it's I feel like now you're at a point in your strength training that it's more of maintenance. Like you've gotten to a level that it's working well for you in the endurance world and now each winter off season we get you back to that strong point and then you just maintain it as much as possible.

Darryl [19:28 - 19:44]
100% true, That's exactly right. Start. I think that podcast 43 chad with, with Lindsay and I think they talked about getting to a £200 squat man. I didn't want to go right after them because I'm not there. But you know what, I'm an endurance person, it's okay. I

Chad [19:44 - 19:45]
get it.

Darryl [19:45 - 19:52]
I know we used wad up for our lifts and I get to watch myself at the bottom of the leaderboard every day on that, but you know what, it's okay. I

Adam [19:52 - 19:53]
don't, I

Darryl [19:53 - 19:59]
used to get used to fret about it, but I don't mind about it anymore. Like I am what I am, I make my gains

Adam [19:59 - 19:59]
from

Darryl [20:00 - 20:05]
11 40 to 1 75 and squats, let's say by the end of the strength season

Adam [20:06 - 20:06]
and then go

Darryl [20:06 - 20:11]
back into an endurance and if lindsey and chris never wanna bike, I'm happy to bike

Chad [20:11 - 20:14]
against it. I mean, it sounds, it

Adam [20:14 - 20:14]
sounds like

Chad [20:15 - 20:36]
like you said a little bit ago, like since johnny lP, you haven't really been injured during endurance and so I mean, I feel like that's, that's a huge thing there to talk like, I think we've talked about this a few times, but like it's really cool how endurance and strength training has started coming together closer and obviously I know adam and you guys are

Adam [20:36 - 20:37]
much or

Chad [20:37 - 20:38]
a big part of that, but like

Adam [20:39 - 20:39]
for

Chad [20:39 - 20:44]
endurance, people out there that are running by themselves and they're running around and whatever

Adam [20:45 - 20:45]
to

Chad [20:45 - 20:54]
then see a community like this and then there's other places in crossfit, like you see it more times, right? You see people like running marathons and then doing like snatchers or dead lifts and all these crazy fits of

Adam [20:54 - 20:55]
strength,

Chad [20:55 - 20:58]
but it's really cool hearing from people like yourself

Adam [20:58 - 20:58]
that

Chad [20:59 - 21:08]
just because I went to the gym and I took endurance off for a few years and I started getting stronger. Now it's allowing me, I made payment and now it's allowing me to

Adam [21:08 - 21:09]
enjoyment

Chad [21:09 - 21:11]
Passion without being injured because no one

Adam [21:11 - 21:12]
it's

Chad [21:12 - 21:16]
more frustrating doing what you love and just getting hurt all the time versus

Adam [21:16 - 21:17]
I put

Chad [21:17 - 21:18]
some time into being strong

Adam [21:18 - 21:19]
and now I get

Chad [21:19 - 21:24]
to really do what I truly love, which is for you running and doing triathlons.

Adam [21:24 - 21:24]
So it's,

Chad [21:25 - 21:33]
it's super cool hearing stories like that. I love like how these different modalities are coming together and it's happening, I feel like I'm seeing it more and more everywhere. I look

Darryl [21:34 - 21:38]
right, totally true. I think too,

Adam [21:38 - 21:39]
there's when

Darryl [21:39 - 21:50]
you're, I don't know when I was young, I used to see things like, oh you gotta do strength if you're gonna do endurance and whatever, I'm young, I don't really need to do that. Um and then I get injured all the time, right, it's the same thing with consistency,

Adam [21:51 - 21:51]
there's

Darryl [21:51 - 21:54]
all out there that if you want to be like in endurance sports

Adam [21:55 - 21:55]
you

Darryl [21:55 - 22:02]
can try and cheat the system and do a whole bunch of high intensity intervals and maybe you'll make gains slightly

Adam [22:02 - 22:02]
quicker.

Darryl [22:03 - 22:24]
Um No, I mean there's all nutrition hacks that people try to but the reality is it's it's it's about consistency, it's totally about consistency. And Adam actually gives me credit for this a lot of the time for just making every just being consistent, right? If you're gonna train, you're gonna train and you're gonna schedule stuff in and be super consistent

Adam [22:24 - 22:24]
with,

Darryl [22:25 - 22:29]
I'm going to do I'm going to bike on Tuesday, run out Wednesday bike on

Adam [22:29 - 22:29]
thursday.

Darryl [22:30 - 22:33]
Um strength on friday strength on monday, also long ride

Adam [22:33 - 22:34]
saturday

Darryl [22:35 - 22:42]
um long run sunday, that's during the season and that's set like I'm super consistent with that. Um

Adam [22:42 - 23:12]
that work for you Darryl and you said it since day one, like you know, you started with three times a week because you know, your body need to tease into it, but once you got started it wasn't just uh you know, I might go this morning, it's like I'm gonna be there every morning and I'm going to do that this month and next month and this year next year and now we're seeing it in endurance and the progress is is very very awesome. But

Chad [23:12 - 23:18]
I think with one of the like, you guys know like the endurance community, like

Adam [23:18 - 23:19]
maybe

Chad [23:19 - 23:20]
this is just me not being in the

Adam [23:20 - 23:21]
endurance

Chad [23:21 - 23:22]
area, but like,

Adam [23:24 - 23:24]
you

Chad [23:24 - 23:35]
Know, five or 10 years ago, endurance wasn't like talking about like, make sure you get your squats and make sure you're lunging, make sure you're doing functional fitness in the off season and then hit the, hit the road and

Adam [23:35 - 23:36]
in

Chad [23:36 - 23:44]
the, in season. Right? Like, was it talked about like, was that a common thing or is this something that just sort of happening in the past couple of years?

Adam [23:46 - 24:01]
It's growing in a massive way in the world of endurance. I think injuries play such a big part of an endurance athletes journey that they miss like seasons at a

Chad [24:01 - 24:02]
time because

Adam [24:02 - 24:30]
they're plagued with injuries that lead to different injuries that one year it's a foot the next year, it's the knee, the next year, it's the hip and back, you know, it's all related. And I think before social media, the pros were only able to share their results. You can only see their swim bike and run times or you can only see their marathon times. They weren't able to share that hey, like three times a week I'm in the gym, keeping my body healthy.

Darryl [24:31 - 24:31]
So

Adam [24:31 - 24:51]
I think social media has played a huge role in that where the pros don't do a great job of sharing the non glamorous stuff, which is the behind the scenes, you know, strength work, nutrition, whatever, but it's definitely becoming a lot more well known that that's not maybe that's a must,

Chad [24:52 - 24:53]
right? Yeah. You and I were just talking about

Adam [24:53 - 24:54]
that.

Chad [24:54 - 25:07]
Yeah, Yeah, all the accessory movements and I'm sure they're doing bicep curls and I'm sure they're doing other things too. Like there's no joke. Like I think there's probably places for every everything and it's just like trying to make sure that your

Adam [25:08 - 25:08]
if you

Chad [25:08 - 25:20]
want to be an internist athlete, don't just forget about the stuff that quote unquote makes you, you know, bigger or stronger, I guess we should just say stronger, right? Stronger doesn't always equal bigger.

Adam [25:21 - 25:21]
But even

Chad [25:21 - 25:25]
crossfit athletes are now doing a lot of stuff to improve their

Adam [25:25 - 25:26]
running short

Chad [25:26 - 25:29]
term and like short distance and long distance,

Darryl [25:29 - 25:39]
you know, it's hard for results based people to chat is doing stuff that's preventative because doing preventative work, there is no result. The result is nothing you don't

Adam [25:39 - 25:39]
get,

Darryl [25:40 - 25:48]
right. So it's hard to, I found I still do even it's really hard to do preventative stuff because there's no reward for doing it.

Adam [25:48 - 25:49]
There's no

Darryl [25:49 - 25:52]
tangible reward, right? You just don't get hurt. So the reward is actually

Adam [25:52 - 25:53]
nothing.

Darryl [25:54 - 25:55]
Um And I think that's

Adam [25:55 - 25:56]
that's

Darryl [25:56 - 25:59]
hard to do. That's why recovery is hard to do, stretching is hard

Adam [25:59 - 26:00]
to do because

Darryl [26:00 - 26:04]
there's there's not really, I mean, I guess stretching, you feel better and recover you feel better,

Adam [26:04 - 26:05]
but

Darryl [26:05 - 26:08]
the reward is that nothing bad happens for injuries,

Chad [26:10 - 26:34]
that's a good point. Yeah, So then, so, uh, so it sounds like you took a few years off of endurance and then you're getting stronger. I'm assuming that was also helping you not get injured even in in the gym. Sounds like community and the group fitness was a big part of like what really

Adam [26:34 - 26:34]
sort of

Chad [26:35 - 26:44]
caught your attention. Did you like, it sounds like you also just like full in like 100% like, are you doing challenges? You're doing map challenges frozen for challenges? You're just like

Adam [26:44 - 26:45]
all in.

Darryl [26:46 - 26:47]
Pretty sure I did every

Adam [26:47 - 26:49]
challenge

Darryl [26:49 - 26:59]
For like in 20, 2018, 2019. Around that time, I'm pretty sure I did every challenge when it came up and there's there's, I think four big challenges a year, does that sound right at him?

Adam [26:59 - 27:01]
Yes, that's right. Exactly.

Darryl [27:01 - 27:04]
Your best you body comp and Whatever the 4th 1 is

Adam [27:04 - 27:08]
for maps. Yeah, Yeah,

Darryl [27:08 - 27:10]
yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I mean

Chad [27:10 - 27:12]
you're a competitive person.

Darryl [27:12 - 27:14]
Yeah. I also very

Adam [27:14 - 27:15]
much you

Darryl [27:15 - 27:19]
can, my wife gives me even, she credits me because of a hard time about this

Adam [27:19 - 27:20]
too. I'm

Darryl [27:20 - 27:31]
also, I don't want to half ask, can I stay on the podcast? I don't want to have to say anything. Like I if you're gonna do something, do it right instead of just half doing

Adam [27:31 - 27:31]
it.

Darryl [27:32 - 27:43]
So if I'm doing something with my kids at night, I'm going to do something with my kids at night. Like I'm not gonna have the phone beside me and half play with them and half be on my phone and half the,

Adam [27:44 - 27:44]
I

Darryl [27:44 - 28:04]
don't know what else you can do, go to the gym or I'm gonna do endurance when I'm doing the gym or I'm doing endurance, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it full out and like I'm going to actively participate in what I've blocked my time to do. I think that's really important cause I think a lot of people, not a lot, I think some people float and half do stuff.

Adam [28:04 - 28:05]
I think

Darryl [28:05 - 28:09]
you get the enjoyment out of it that you would by just going all

Adam [28:09 - 28:09]
in.

Darryl [28:10 - 28:11]
Yeah,

Chad [28:11 - 28:19]
that's a huge problem these days, Right? So many distractions, like we're multitasking at every single minute of the day, it's amazing that you can create that kind of,

Adam [28:20 - 28:20]
it's

Chad [28:20 - 28:25]
a great way of looking at right, create that space and give yourself that sort of rule.

Adam [28:26 - 29:22]
Darryl is truly one of the members or challengers or athletes that, you know, he's got the the job, the family too, three kids, twins and yeah, yeah. Um like and then he, he makes time creates time to not only like do a challenge, but then like excel in the challenge, like a math challenge. Some people sign up and then after the first week, oh, I don't have time for this, right and Darryl finds, you know, it's just the time is created. Same with his, his endurance training, right? He blocks it off and he makes time and I think that's a really overlooked side of it, Darryl, you don't, you you have the choice to go all in or not and you get a lot more out of it when you when you make the full commitment. That's amazing.

Darryl [29:22 - 29:36]
Yeah, and I mean my wife is super supportive it takes, I mean I gotta schedule, we gotta schedule each of us with three kids and twin, like my kids are nine and 27 year olds. Um That's a lot of work in and of itself, right? So

Adam [29:37 - 29:37]
it

Darryl [29:37 - 29:40]
also means when you schedule something, you schedule

Adam [29:40 - 29:40]
it

Darryl [29:41 - 29:46]
with her, but um with her in mind and I think you'll know adam

Adam [29:47 - 29:47]
I don't do

Darryl [29:47 - 29:53]
anything in the afternoons or at night with us at all. It's always in the morning and only in the morning

Adam [29:53 - 29:54]
because that's

Darryl [29:54 - 30:08]
kind of the agreement that we have to make things flow in our life, right? Is try to do the endurance stuff when the kids are sleeping or just waking up. Um I get home, I get them breakfast and lunch is when they're getting ready for

Adam [30:08 - 30:09]
school

Darryl [30:09 - 30:26]
and then that's kind of my morning and then the afternoon um my wife will do her fitness stuff for her activities and that's I don't do them in that time. I don't I was gonna say I don't get to, but I don't want to, but I I have my time and she has her afternoon

Adam [30:26 - 30:26]
time

Darryl [30:27 - 30:31]
and that's that's set and that's how it works. And I don't,

Adam [30:32 - 30:32]
the

Darryl [30:32 - 30:39]
other thing that I think is important is even when I'm running I think of this thing about giving yourself permission to fail or permission to bail out.

Adam [30:40 - 30:41]
So if

Darryl [30:41 - 30:58]
if in the morning I haven't like let's say in the week we planned a week and you have an alarm, I will never ever ever snooze on an alarm and my alarm goes off and waking up and doing it and the gym is like that sometimes I'll have to work late but I'm going to the gym at six in the morning so I'll just go to the gym at six in the morning. That's because if you don't

Adam [30:59 - 30:59]
I

Darryl [30:59 - 31:11]
find for me anyway, you then give yourself kind of mental permission to fail and then the next week you'll do it again, you'll be like, oh I gotta work late tonight a little bit and then you don't go to the gym and then it just becomes kind of a repeating negative habit

Adam [31:11 - 31:12]
of giving

Darryl [31:12 - 31:42]
yourself permission to not do something. It's exact same. And running from running. And we're doing like let's say we're doing a half marathon 21 K. And then the racism pretty bad for stopping unfortunately. But if you stop and if I stop and walk like at 12 K I'm gonna stop six more times and walk, getting up to 21 K. But I just don't stop, I'm not gonna stop, I'll get all the way through the 21 it's like it's, I don't know, I in my head I call it permission, giving myself permission to fail. If you don't give yourself permission to fail, you just, you don't fail. As often say that

Adam [31:42 - 32:17]
Darryl, I use that all all the time with either my training or life in general. Um and I think it's so true, you know, even if it's a, like a set at the gym or if it's, you know, an alarm clock or if it's a something that you plan to get done, if you give yourself permission to miss it once you're gonna continue to do it. Um I think it's it's another great, Darryl's gonna have these tips of the day that

Chad [32:18 - 32:21]
Capture that one. That's great.

Adam [32:22 - 32:40]
I try to tell members like, you know, you're in it, let's say on a conditioning day at the gym, You know, you're in a 12 minute circuit, this is totally a fitness rule, but you go to grab it, a drink of water once You're going four times

Darryl [32:40 - 32:41]
if

Adam [32:41 - 33:15]
you just don't go or you're doing 10 chin ups, 10 thrusters, 10 burpees. If you break the chin ups or if you break the thrusters, once you're going to break them every time and yes, there's strategy involved with everything, but um the the idea is, you know, it's so true that permission is more, I think more important along the lines of what carol said with schedule and routine and training in life that it's more important not to give yourself permission to miss at all.

Chad [33:15 - 33:21]
Okay. I think it's I think how I receive it because it's just talking to the two of you

Adam [33:22 - 33:22]
and I bet

Chad [33:22 - 33:37]
you someone like um a lot of people like me, I'm sure Mark and Mark and endurance and allie and crossfit and cross it. Like you have a lot of self talk and that could be a rule that you can hold on to

Adam [33:37 - 33:38]
to get you through

Chad [33:38 - 33:58]
a workout, right? And for folks that are gonna do the open and they constantly see people just like crushing their souls and then they ask themselves like how do you do that? Like how do you put yourself in position? There are ways of getting through it and that's I would say one of the ones that I think most people think about right like just tell yourself not to stop because if you stop

Adam [33:58 - 34:01]
now right?

Chad [34:01 - 34:09]
For sure and you can't teach it though right? Like I wonder where it comes from. Like it's just like something that people are just given right? Because you can't teach someone

Adam [34:09 - 34:09]
to just

Chad [34:09 - 34:13]
welcome this suffering right? You can give them strategies on how to get around it.

Adam [34:13 - 34:14]
But

Chad [34:14 - 34:16]
you know, you can tell who

Darryl [34:16 - 34:17]
likes

Chad [34:17 - 34:20]
that really gritty type of work and people that just you know

Darryl [34:20 - 34:22]
shy away from it. Yeah,

Adam [34:23 - 34:40]
yeah, you're right, we talked about that all the time chad, like how do you teach it? I think it starts with little victories, like Darryl said with the alarm clock and you know, tasks and chores and then it becomes bigger. I don't know if you don't, you know, talk about anything like that, Darryl, but

Darryl [34:41 - 35:03]
yeah, I mean habits are a funny thing, right? Positive habits feed on themselves and negative habits feed on themselves. I think has not, I mean I was thinking, is it discipline? Not really? I don't, I don't think it's discipline, it's just, it's a, it's kind of a, it's knowing that if you've given, if I've done in the past, given myself permission to fail in the, in the past

Adam [35:03 - 35:04]
that I haven't

Darryl [35:04 - 35:25]
felt successful. Um, yeah, in the past by doing something, like I said, when you go to the gym, when you look at the workout and you think Holy smokes, this is gonna be a tough day and you get through it and you have a win a and you didn't give yourself permission to fail that day and you think back to yesterday, yeah, yesterday's workout looked tough, but I got through it and it's just, it's just

Chad [35:25 - 35:27]
positive compounding interest company results.

Darryl [35:27 - 35:29]
Yeah. So

Chad [35:29 - 35:30]
yeah, so anybody out there that wants to start

Adam [35:30 - 35:31]
just like

Chad [35:31 - 35:34]
The next time you do a 12 minute workout, don't take a drink of water.

Darryl [35:34 - 35:36]
Yeah.

Adam [35:36 - 35:37]
Or like I think I remember

Chad [35:37 - 36:00]
you yelled at me when we when I first like long time ago because drinking water never looked like a bad thing to me. And I think it was like an open workout probably the first year I did it. I'm doing what I think it was a clean and dubliner. I don't know what it was and I went to bend over and get a drink of water and you're like yelled in the camera like get that shipped out of here and it's still on my video. Like I can see it on youtube,

Adam [36:00 - 36:01]
get that ship

Chad [36:01 - 36:05]
out here. You don't need that ever since then though

Adam [36:05 - 36:49]
Right? If you tell me before the workout that your strategy is to take a break after each you know round for a quick 12th break to get chalk and water you've committed to that but if you haven't committed to that then that's gonna turn into like a bad worse habit. So that's I think I agree with you. You know there's times where it doesn't seem like a bad idea but it compounds so you making a game plan going into anything like scheduling your week or creating a strategy for the workout or having a pace that you're gonna you know follow for your training.

Chad [36:50 - 36:53]
Yeah I only say it because at that point I didn't think anything of it.

Adam [36:54 - 36:55]
I would say

Chad [36:55 - 37:05]
I am a person that can make myself go to a dark place at that point. It never occurred to me that I had to do that. It never occurred to me that I like I was so like,

Adam [37:06 - 37:06]
like

Chad [37:06 - 37:28]
naive to the idea and just by knowing that and now when I go to the open workouts and say that like I'm much more strategic and I'm also much more like okay, like for the next 12 minutes this is gonna hurt and I'm okay with that and there's no water in sight or no distractions. So somehow I've taught myself and I don't know exactly how, but I think going back to Daryl's point, I think it is like over time you just build habits all around

Adam [37:28 - 37:29]
you and

Chad [37:29 - 37:33]
just don't let yourself fail and over time it just becomes this thing where failure is not an option.

Adam [37:35 - 37:42]
Yeah, thanks for that Darryl, that was impromptu but I think such an important piece of the puzzle.

Chad [37:44 - 37:54]
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's an attribute that probably a lot of people NLP have in our community and probably I would say if they aren't showing it now, I don't think it would be hard for them to do that if that was something that they actually cared for,

Adam [37:55 - 37:55]
care to do.

Darryl [37:57 - 38:01]
So either I agree, totally chat. Yeah,

Adam [38:02 - 39:26]
amazing. The biggest, you know, I'll lead us into the next little part because this has been the biggest, I opener for Michelle and I the past two years you flipped a bit of a switch kind of from the buying standpoint from the commitment standpoint, I'll kind of lead into it. But the first Darryl came with the mindset that he needed to get his body healthy, he needed to get strong. Then he fell in love with the community, the environment, the push, the motivation and he was just going and it was just that repetitive habit of going, going, going and we said Darryl, like we know you have big goals if you want to get to the next level, there's a few things that you're missing out on and he opened up to us a little bit about nutrition and recovery and the biggest thing that came to mind for me was he never had a massage in his life training so hard and so much and never in his life. So that's the last two years have been such a crazy transformation, not necessarily in the training side but in the nutrition and recovery side that I think has got him to where he is today and why we're talking

Darryl [39:27 - 39:29]
the nutrition adam was a huge

Adam [39:29 - 39:29]
deal.

Darryl [39:30 - 39:34]
And Michelle was nice to me for a bit and then was not nice to me

Chad [39:34 - 39:36]
because

Darryl [39:36 - 39:50]
it wasn't, it wasn't changing. Like I wasn't eating enough and I wasn't eating enough at the right times, not even close, right. And then, so Michelle, Yeah, like I said, she was nice to me at first saying, well you're not eating enough and you do this and then I

Adam [39:50 - 39:51]
would I

Darryl [39:51 - 40:11]
would not perform maybe the way I could and then eventually thank goodness, she said look you're not eating enough, like it was no it wasn't fun and it wasn't fooling around anymore, right? You're not eating enough and you're not eating right and we need to make you change. And that that was a huge deal for me adam, like the amount that I eat in the morning now versus what I used to eat in the

Adam [40:11 - 40:12]
morning.

Darryl [40:12 - 40:16]
Um and the amount of calories I'm taken in during the day and

Adam [40:16 - 40:17]
I and I

Darryl [40:17 - 40:47]
think most of us don't understand this that if you're not fueling enough you're actually hurting yourself. You're making your body comp worse not better because your body goes into like Michelle describe it better than me, I'm not an expert, but nobody goes into some level of starvation mode and storing mode instead of having the fuel, it needs to do the work out and building instead of storing. Um And it I mean out of it worked like a charm. I mean, you know, Michelle knows it worked like a charm. I felt way better. Um

Adam [40:48 - 40:48]
It's

Darryl [40:48 - 40:50]
also amazing how when you eat more and

Adam [40:50 - 40:51]
properly, the

Darryl [40:51 - 41:18]
next workout is a lot easier. It's not easier but you're not as sore, right? You're just you've repaired properly, let's say I guess. Um and it I mean it's a lot of misconceptions. I I used to actually, when we do the gym Tuesdays and Thursdays on work or more endurance days or cardio days and monday, Wednesday, friday or strength days. And if I'm going to miss a day now I missed a Tuesday or thursday when I first started, I would never miss a Tuesday or thursday because I was best at, right,

Adam [41:18 - 41:19]
but your

Darryl [41:19 - 41:20]
best does, but what your

Adam [41:20 - 41:21]
worst at

Darryl [41:21 - 41:24]
um and fixing it. And it's the same with nutrition. So now

Adam [41:24 - 41:25]
I, I

Darryl [41:25 - 41:41]
have a chic in the morning before the workout, I have two eggs and uh english muffin and some kind of meat, like just an egg that's not use Mcdonald's, but an egg muffin sandwich every day after. I have granola and greek, yogurt around

Adam [41:41 - 41:41]
10 o'clock

Darryl [41:42 - 41:45]
every day when I do, I work out or something. So I'm having

Adam [41:46 - 41:47]
probably

Darryl [41:47 - 41:50]
1000 probably more than that, more than 1000 calories before 10:30.

Adam [41:50 - 41:51]
Um,

Darryl [41:51 - 41:57]
and then regular lunch, regular dinner and probably snack in between and it's, it's made a massive difference.

Adam [41:58 - 42:01]
That was poetry to my ears. Daryl

Chad [42:01 - 42:02]
thinks

Adam [42:02 - 42:12]
that I think the term Michelle used and it's probably not appropriate for the podcast. That's why you didn't say it, but she said you eat like an old lady,

Darryl [42:12 - 42:14]
70 year old woman,

Adam [42:14 - 42:15]
70 year old

Darryl [42:15 - 42:17]
woman, that

Adam [42:17 - 42:30]
was the stern, the stern uh you know, harsh reality that, you know, she finally needed to give Darryl, what did you eat before? Give us a comparison of what you would eat in the morning,

Darryl [42:31 - 42:33]
Nothing zero.

Adam [42:33 - 42:34]
So

Darryl [42:34 - 43:09]
I would eat nothing in the morning before the gym and I go and I have a water bottle, I go home and I have a bowl of many weeks or cheerios and then I go about my day and by 3:00 I would be absolutely starving. So then I drove home and get a bag of chips because they couldn't even make it home where they're eating. Um yeah, and then gorge on dinner and then at eight o'clock at night again because I was so hungry and I was thinking, well, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get fit because I'm, I'm not eating much in the morning and it was a terrible

Chad [43:09 - 43:10]
idea

Adam [43:12 - 43:42]
and we knew that the breakthrough was right there for Darryl. Like we saw him putting in all of this hard work and he wasn't getting the results that we knew he should be getting were like, we see this great athlete, we see the work, he's putting in, what is going like, what, what is going wrong? And we dug into the, it took a while, it took a few months to buy in, he's like, guys, I'm gonna get fat, like, you know, this is too much food, I can't do this

Darryl [43:42 - 43:42]
and

Adam [43:42 - 44:12]
and probably right. I bet you the first thing you, you felt was um, your energy levels and then the second thing you said is, you felt more energized for your workout the next day. So you felt better in your workouts and then eventually the body calm changes in the performance and the recovery, it's such a compound effect with such a, the

Darryl [44:12 - 44:26]
other thing to the other thing too that I realized I didn't, I didn't change too much of the way I like my my wife makes the majority of the meals and she's super super healthy in our in our own nutrition.

Adam [44:27 - 44:27]
It

Darryl [44:27 - 44:29]
certainly wasn't because of that. I didn't change that. I

Adam [44:29 - 44:30]
just

Darryl [44:30 - 44:33]
changed eating more in the morning so I wasn't having the crap.

Adam [44:34 - 44:34]
So

Darryl [44:34 - 44:48]
I like what we eat during the day is great. It's really nutritious and it's pretty um like I get enough calories and a little bit more now but I eat a lot more in the morning but the junk just is gone now, right? And that's my own reading it.

Adam [44:48 - 45:01]
Yeah, you're reading the drunk drawer every night because you're starving when now you replace that with a bowl of like oatmeal and granola and fruit at 10 a.m. Instead of 10 p.m. Yeah.

Darryl [45:01 - 45:17]
Yeah right on mark. Calling the endurance coach has been good for that too during workouts while you do too. You give me crap all the time adam for, I used to just, I do around, I mean I still do sometimes unfortunately, but I used to run and just have no water, so

Adam [45:17 - 45:18]
do it.

Darryl [45:18 - 45:20]
I did it this year actually and I don't know

Adam [45:20 - 45:21]
it time

Darryl [45:21 - 45:42]
trial, 21 K time trial and 30 30 degree heat with no water. I made it about 17.5 before I crashed hard, but it's not good for you and and it took three days to recover from that then right instead of instead of and that marks good about that about coaching around nutrition during workouts and

Adam [45:42 - 45:43]
fueling

Darryl [45:43 - 45:53]
your body to perform not it's not going to make you less fit, it's gonna make you far more fit because you're gonna perform better during the workout by taking in carbs.

Adam [45:54 - 46:01]
Yeah, the inconvenience of carrying a water bottle was too much for Darryl to overcome because it would slow him down.

Darryl [46:01 - 46:03]
But

Adam [46:03 - 46:33]
seeing seeing the horizon and the uh steam coming up from the road as he's blacking out. Wasn't enough of here. Oh man, yes, in in workout nutrition, I think your protein shake before your LP workouts plus your carbs, during your your endurance stuff. That's longer um has also made a huge difference.

Darryl [46:33 - 46:38]
And before, I know, I I don't think by the letter of the law, you're supposed to have your protein

Adam [46:39 - 46:39]
before,

Darryl [46:39 - 46:51]
but I have like right before, I mean right before I'm drinking it in the car at 5 57 for the six o'clock workout. So I'm probably not actually using any of it until 5 30 or 5 40. I don't know how long it takes, but

Adam [46:52 - 46:52]
it's

Darryl [46:52 - 46:54]
working great. So

Adam [46:54 - 47:33]
yeah, we have a lot of members that do that before the morning workouts and it's you're right. It is kind of like, it might not be the technical scientific best way to do it, but it's a great way to give your muscles some fuel and energy to work out. So if you're not going to get up an hour and a half before I need a full meal, not eating at all is is way worse than giving your body some fuel from a performance standpoint, but say you don't care that much of a performance from a recovery standpoint and a body comp standpoint, all of those things secret.

Chad [47:34 - 47:35]
Yeah, I think

Darryl [47:35 - 47:36]
that's

Chad [47:36 - 47:41]
one of the things that Michelle has talked about a few times in the podcast, just like nutrition timing and nutrition

Adam [47:41 - 47:42]
and just

Chad [47:42 - 47:49]
nutrition timing one. But to just helping people get past this idea that eating more is a bad

Adam [47:49 - 47:50]
thing. I

Chad [47:50 - 48:02]
think that's one of the big things that Michelle continues to talk about and it's, it's, I don't think it's many people's fault because I think the information about nutrition that's out there is so distracting and so, you

Adam [48:02 - 48:03]
know, this

Chad [48:03 - 48:13]
idea of eating less is better. So like, you know, got everybody just kind of like what's going on, like what do I do? Like there's no right way,

Adam [48:14 - 48:14]
but similar

Darryl [48:14 - 48:28]
to the idea that getting a really good body copper physique means you got to do a whole bunch of cardio, which is totally not true. Like it's my opinion and his opinion, I don't know, but it's totally opposite. We do more legs that LP

Adam [48:28 - 48:29]
than

Darryl [48:29 - 48:43]
anything else by far and you get far more fit up top than you do by doing curls and bench because you just use your burning a whole lot more calories. Um And just the strength stuff is

Adam [48:43 - 48:44]
what gets

Darryl [48:44 - 48:51]
a good body comp. I think anyway, endurance doesn't it can but not the same, not as fast and not the same way. I think adam you're the expert. But

Adam [48:52 - 49:03]
yeah, I'm gonna sit in my living room and do crunches to get a six pack. It's kind of that theory, right? Like well first of all you got to burn off, you know, that layer

Darryl [49:03 - 49:03]
of

Adam [49:04 - 49:25]
fat over top and then to do that we need to, you know, train full use energy, which comes from compound movements like squats or dead lifts or you know, clean impresses. Yeah, the theory behind it is so crazy, but still so foreign to most people. Mhm.

Darryl [49:26 - 49:26]
That's

Adam [49:26 - 49:28]
so true.

Darryl [49:28 - 49:32]
You went through a bit, you've been bulking right? Like you gained a whole bunch

Adam [49:32 - 49:34]
of muscle

Darryl [49:34 - 49:35]
in the last little bit, haven't you?

Chad [49:36 - 49:41]
Yeah, I've been doing hypertrophy training, which is probably more like the

Adam [49:41 - 49:41]
the

Chad [49:41 - 49:46]
opposite of what we do and we're not completely opposite, but it's much more,

Adam [49:48 - 49:48]
I

Chad [49:48 - 49:49]
ate a ton of food

Darryl [49:49 - 49:50]
in

Chad [49:50 - 49:53]
in collaboration with this sort of hypertrophy

Darryl [49:53 - 49:54]
training. And so I

Chad [49:54 - 50:13]
gained like £18, which is pretty aggressive, pretty aggressive, but I've always, I've been a person that has always obviously a hard gainer, like I have to eat a lot to gain a lot of weight or even just maintain weight. So I'm the opposite of most people,

Adam [50:13 - 50:13]
but

Chad [50:14 - 50:18]
I've never had an issue of eating food, so I've always challenged myself the opposite way where most people

Darryl [50:19 - 50:19]
cut down

Chad [50:19 - 50:26]
food. I challenge myself to eat more food. And and I and I've and I've started dabbling into different types of

Adam [50:26 - 50:27]
training. Like hypertrophy

Chad [50:27 - 50:31]
training is very much um low, low,

Adam [50:31 - 50:32]
low, low

Chad [50:32 - 50:48]
amount of like low weights and high reps. So instead of doing like a A 90% squat for two or three reps, I'm doing like a 40 Squat for like eight reps times, eight sets or something like that. So a lot more repetitions, which is

Adam [50:49 - 50:49]
which

Chad [50:49 - 50:53]
isn't shown to increased muscle mass. So a little bit different.

Darryl [50:53 - 50:54]
Um

Chad [50:54 - 50:56]
That's what that's what I like about

Adam [50:56 - 50:57]
like LP

Chad [50:57 - 51:18]
in the community that we have, is that we have, the more we look, there's like functional fitness is not just like one thing that we're not just crossfit right across is just it's not just one thing. And endurance isn't just one thing, it's this collective like fitness level and this collective sort of, we're all trying to get better in some way whether whether it's aesthetics or whether it's performance or whether you know you're trying to just

Adam [51:19 - 51:19]
beat your

Chad [51:20 - 51:28]
thrust your time or something like that. So it's super cool seeing all the different types of fitness sort of come closer in a really cool community.

Adam [51:30 - 51:30]
It's

Darryl [51:30 - 51:31]
super cool seeing

Adam [51:32 - 51:32]
a lot of

Darryl [51:33 - 51:42]
members trying out the endurance part of LP as well current members and knew that endurance group is growing significantly. And

Adam [51:42 - 51:43]
actually Mark

Darryl [51:43 - 52:01]
put everything on the facebook group today about all the new members and there's quite a few that are current L. B. Uh members that are joining the endurance group as well. Which is to your point chat it's it's it's balanced and interesting and fun that they're gonna now come onto the endurance side. Yeah

Chad [52:01 - 52:06]
I wanted to ask you about that because you did it you've obviously done endurance

Adam [52:06 - 52:07]
uh

Chad [52:07 - 52:18]
much before L. P. And then you did L. P. Which is very much functional fitness. And then now this endurance aspect of our community is really you know I feel like it's really thriving and maybe it's a mix

Adam [52:18 - 52:20]
of getting

Chad [52:20 - 52:33]
more coaches and more uh more in terms of people into the community but it's also maybe a balance of that and maybe covid I don't know but it seems like you've really thrived under this sort of new sort of sense of endurance.

Darryl [52:33 - 52:33]
Like

Chad [52:34 - 52:38]
how is it different than what you've done in the past in your in your past sort of endurance life.

Adam [52:39 - 52:39]
Yeah.

Darryl [52:41 - 53:01]
Uh Adam has said this he thinks it's funny that endurance athletes a lot of them tend to be alone like doing things alone all the time for long hours. Um And sometimes that's fine. I mean if you're an introvert you might like that kind of thing at times but it's chad it's exactly the same as the difference for me anyway. The difference between

Adam [53:01 - 53:02]
good

Darryl [53:02 - 53:04]
life and um L.

Adam [53:04 - 53:05]
P.

Darryl [53:05 - 53:07]
Versus training on your own

Adam [53:07 - 53:07]
without a coach

Darryl [53:08 - 54:46]
and LP endurance, it's a group in the group there's always like people better than you in the in the group which is super motivating me right? Um And when we do a run workout like I'm pretty solid on the bike relative to the rest of the group and not as great on the run. Um And there's great runners that motivate you but just the community and everybody else doing it, I can't stress enough how much everybody gets better in that environment and you're also accountable to when you're there consistently, you're accountable to other people. People realize when you're not there right if you're there consistently and that somebody doesn't show up the next day, they say hey where were you yesterday? And for me anyway that's super powerful that's like oh I'm letting not really letting them down but they do expect me to be there and so it's all gonna be there um Yeah so it's just and coaching also I've gone through life thinking like you read things like yeah, yeah, that doesn't really apply to me. Yeah, I know better than that and it's totally not true having a coach, Mark and and Adam and uh and now braun went for a swim, but having a coach to watch you make small corrections motivate you. Um but more than that set a plan that you can just trust is gonna work and it does, Mark's plans work, they're great and you just show up and follow it and trust the process be consistent and trust the process. Um I think having a coach is a big difference to in that chat. Mhm. Yeah,

Chad [54:46 - 54:48]
awesome. Yeah, sounds

Adam [54:48 - 54:51]
like, I

Chad [54:51 - 55:01]
was gonna say it sounds like if you don't show up one day, the reason why you don't want to do that is because you just, you just get chirped hard, you don't want to show up the next day, you know what you're gonna get.

Darryl [55:01 - 55:08]
I tend to do most, I tend to do most of the chirping, sorry, most of the chirping. So if I miss then I get everybody's

Adam [55:09 - 56:17]
but Darryl that was a big eye opener for the endurance club because LP is such a chirpy community, like, like a locker room and in the world of endurance, it's so solo and independent and early on, you know, we're only a year in, but early on last spring when the church started coming out, it's like, oh we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings and it's like guys, this is community, these are your this is your family. Like the chirps are the way of bonding and growing together and that's Darryl that you, the church came from you because at L. P. You know, you have your six a.m. Crew and if if they don't see you, you're getting chirped and it's not because they they're they're making fun, it's because they want to see you succeed and you're you know, you're not there. So yeah, community Darrell talks about community and coaching, right? Like you need the experts leading the community and chat and I talk about this all the time, but without the community, like the community is our superpower

Darryl [56:17 - 56:18]
for

Adam [56:18 - 56:49]
the endurance club and at the gym um like nothing against me or nothing against coach Mark, but like anyone, anyone can design those workouts, but if you go do them at good life or you do them on your own every day, you're not getting the same benefit out of those workouts as if you do them with other people and you push it with your community. So that's that's the underlying, you know, magic to the success for all of our athletes.

Chad [56:51 - 57:02]
Yeah, and that's I think you're absolutely right because that's also why everyone is so upset with our current uh environment that we're

Darryl [57:02 - 57:03]
in

Chad [57:04 - 57:06]
right,

Adam [57:06 - 57:31]
right? Coach Adam says guys, I'm gonna still design the workout, just do them at home on your own and they say adam you don't understand doing them on my own at home. I'm not going to work as hard, I'm not going to, you know, I don't have the accountability, I don't have the push. It's not gonna be the same and the community is the game changer.

Chad [57:31 - 57:33]
Yeah. You

Darryl [57:33 - 57:41]
know, you can do things to make it the same like last lockdown adam. I remember do you have the option to do workouts at the scheduled time or you could watch the replay

Adam [57:41 - 57:42]
for

Darryl [57:42 - 57:55]
me? I never I never watched the replay. I did them at the scheduled time and I turned the camera on period because it's just do your best to mimic to mimic the real world and

Adam [57:55 - 57:56]
what could

Darryl [57:56 - 57:59]
be um If we weren't in you

Chad [57:59 - 58:10]
gotta really Yeah, you gotta dig deep, right? Like everyone's in this position and now you got to kind of dig deep and hopefully you then if you make it through this right again, then the magic will still be there. Right?

Darryl [58:11 - 58:15]
Yeah. Yeah. The magic will still be

Chad [58:15 - 58:17]
there.

Darryl [58:17 - 58:18]
Yeah.

Adam [58:18 - 58:58]
It makes us, it really made us appreciate it though over the last two years and we, you know, we maybe didn't give ourselves enough credit all of us, our whole community that we were such a powerful community and like like minded people because when we had it taken away from us to recreate it. It was so challenging, right? And you need to use those little tips and those little secrets, whether it's a wad up leaderboard or whether it's turning your camera on so the coach can see you just like they would be if you're at the squat rack at LP, right? Like that accountability and pushes why we love hate, you know, the challenge of coming to the gym.

Chad [59:00 - 59:16]
Yeah, 100% 100%. I don't want to touch on the u. You mentioned that you never had a massage before. Um What is your recovery? I'm assuming your recovery protocols are much better these days.

Adam [59:16 - 59:18]
I've

Darryl [59:18 - 59:20]
still never had a massage ever.

Chad [59:20 - 59:25]
Okay, so you don't, you don't do any sort of physio or any active release or anything like that.

Darryl [59:25 - 59:48]
Yeah, I should do more. I would say if I'm gonna pick an area where I'm lacking most, it's probably recovery. Although actually for christmas my wife and I got a sauna since you guys, it's, it was mainly for her, but ever since we got it, I she's used it more than me but not by a lot. It's

Adam [59:48 - 59:49]
nice

Darryl [59:49 - 59:51]
for the recovery. So

Adam [59:51 - 59:56]
Daryl is more of a self care guy. He works with Doc Kyle when he needs

Darryl [59:56 - 59:57]
to,

Adam [59:57 - 60:27]
but we're working on the preventative side of it. Um But yeah, I just, I found it fascinating that you can get to the level you've got to right and and not be using, obviously you do a lot of, you must do something from a self care recovery standpoint. Well whether you know it or not, but like you said, you you you know, pretty good in general and you always have and so yeah,

Darryl [60:27 - 61:08]
I carry forward some of that. Like when I go to physio, they get physio, they give you stuff to do, and if you do it every night or every day when you're supposed to do it, it actually works and if you don't, it doesn't work right? Like you got to do the exercises they give you. So I just retained some of those two atoms for the stuff that's been a pain for me in the past. Um Like stuff do clamshells and blue bridges in 19 nineties and that kind of stuff, just not every night, but a lot of nights, you know what else to do? This is funny, I don't really like saying this out loud, but my wife does some bar a stuff and Pilates stuff. You guys, you've probably never tried bar a, it's like dance at a bar. It is bloody good for mobility. Like it's all

Adam [61:08 - 61:09]
like putting

Darryl [61:09 - 61:24]
your leg out doing circles with your hips and I mean it's not that manly, but I'll tell you for recovery, it's, it's been really

Chad [61:24 - 61:31]
listen up folks, these are the secrets, the bar a I've never heard of that. Everyone's Googling it right

Darryl [61:31 - 61:32]
now, That's

Adam [61:32 - 61:35]
right. Hopefully

Darryl [61:35 - 61:37]
they don't see an image of me doing it because I'm

Chad [61:37 - 61:41]
pretty amazing.

Adam [61:41 - 62:06]
Daryl, you've had an awesome couple seasons of racing. Um I know some things have changed with your career, you know, on a positive front. What is that? You know, how does that look for this coming season for racing and training and you know, how do you how do you manage to fit it all in with family and career and what big goals do you have for the coming season?

Darryl [62:08 - 63:31]
Yeah. Holy smokes. A lot of questions. Um Yeah, yeah, some some things are definitely changing for the positive for me and my career, which will mean more time to my career quite frankly. Um but I don't think it's that hard to dedicate an hour a day to fitness honestly. Um or end the weekends, I guess in endurance is longer. I think everybody can find an hour a day to do fitness if they make it a priority. Um And I think I mentioned, I have mentioned that I'm fairly scheduled in the morning is my time in the afternoon is not um and I'm okay with that, quite frankly, I'm really good with that. Um I'll tell you another thing that happened is and I fought, I fought for three years for this is tv a cable. Um My wife wanted to get rid of cable forever and I said no, you know what, I need that time, that's like my, my chill out time watching tv doing nothing vegging, I need to watch live sports right? I have to watch live sports. I can't live without. We already see. And that's the best thing. That's one of the best things that ever happened to me in my entire life for priorities because it's just, it was just wasted time from 9:30 p.m. Until 11 p.m. At night was just wasted time. And now I just sleep, go to bed at 9 30. Wake

Chad [63:31 - 63:31]
up.

Darryl [63:32 - 64:30]
Yeah. And it's so much better. I do miss I guess live Sports a bit but there's ways around it. Um And it's just I fought for 3.5 years and my wife laughs at me all the time now because I would never get it back. Never, ever, ever it's just it's just wasted time. So time management will be big at them. I'm gonna have to travel a lot more to for work, which is gonna be more difficult. But running shoes fit in the bag, bike doesn't running shoes do and you can run anywhere. So this kind of work around it. And I mean, you know adam I was like, I take the girls to dance at night and I don't know if you guys have ever tried to watch dance and they may listen to this. So I gotta be a little bit nice, but there are times when I want to go for a run, let's just say that. So I just run while their dance. Um And they they don't know any different cause I'm back by the time they're done and they comment on, they did right at the end and all good. So you find gotta make time right? You gotta find time to squeeze it in.

Chad [64:31 - 64:44]
Yeah, I think that part make, make time if it's, if it's a priority for you and it's gonna help you be a better person, be a better dad than find time right to do it or create

Darryl [64:44 - 64:56]
time. You'll find time for things that are priority. You just gotta get your priorities straight right? And live sports on tv is probably not a priority. So we never break it down.

Chad [64:56 - 65:03]
So get your product straight. Do you do a lot of like goal setting or any sort of vision work anything like that?

Darryl [65:05 - 67:29]
Yeah. Again, my my wife would definitely like to do more like five year plans and stuff. I do parents I do for work for family, we do a little bit, we probably could do more. But for Adam asked about races. So most endurance athletes myself included will have an a race or a couple of races during the year. And then backwards from there around what if you can't train hard or you shouldn't train hard all year long. Right? That's not sustainable. Pros don't even do that, let alone those of us that are that are uh corporate athletes. There you go. Yeah, So um you said in a race and then you work backwards from there. So my race this year is uh Ironman 70.3 so that's half Ironman muscleman in new york which has been postponed two years in a row because of Covid. Um So that's july 10th and I'll do uh Milton which is a sprint is a little bit longer than a sprint. But Milton in early june as a warm up race I guess. And then I'll do Waseda at beach at the end of august. That's a bet with my president. Although I've beat him a couple of times. I don't even think he's gonna do it anymore because my motives now I'll make sure he listens. But yeah, I'll do that one. But the air races in july and so you need probably 12. I know mark would know better but I'd say 12 weeks To be to really focus to lead up to that. So I will. And then the off season I probably take like now is the off season I probably take more of an offseason than most. But you got to balance family time. Um with not with hard to do family time in those 12 weeks when you're prepping for the race but it's tolerant of it. And my kids I think it's good actually. I think it's a good example for my kids. Like they're involved in the L. P. Community too when we do some of the races they come Um I think we did a kids 5K. and I had Spencer try it before, K more than he's ever run in his life. And we finished we finished it took a while, but we finished, it went out hard for 34 30 for the first kilometer. Yeah, so, I mean, it's just it's gonna be a little bit harder at him, but um I mean it's it is a priority for me and it's super fun and like you said, chad a better person, I'm a much better dad if I go to the gym in the morning. Um So it's important, we'll fit it in.

Adam [67:30 - 68:28]
The only thing I heard from that, and we haven't talked about this before, but you do break down your seasons very well because you you're you're well aware that 12 weeks out from a race, there's gonna be a lot of time that goes into training. But then, you know, I've noticed, over the last, You know, even 12 weeks, right, you've had to prioritize family and career, right? And you go through those, you know, our buddy, Dave english calls those the kind of the seasons, right? And you do a great job of balancing that and then Ramping up, you know, now, what's now now is 12, 20, you know, 20, It's now 24 weeks, you know, we're like six months out. Um And then you'll now you start building back up your fitness right? And you don't lose it, you're just not continuing year round to try to prioritize it, which is so important.

Darryl [68:30 - 68:51]
Yeah, I don't think you can, I mean as a corporate athlete, I'll use those words again. I don't think you can all the time. Um but that's, that's, you got it. I'm okay with that, right? I'm not a professional athlete, I'm not going to be um ever, so have seasons. That's a good way to put it actually. Dave Inglis. Um Yeah, he's good for that.

Adam [68:53 - 69:42]
Yeah, I just think that's so important for other other members to think about, right? Like, you know, what times of the year is your family? You know, busiest for some, it's, you know, in the summer we like to travel as a family and we do a lot as a family, so that's not gonna be a season june july august that we're gonna, you know, try to ramp up training. Um but you know, september october november, things are quiet or my, my little guy plays hockey or, you know, my my daughter's dance or, or vice versa, you know, those that have seasons as well, which you're probably more committed during those seasons, you were coaching soccer Darryl, right? Like, you know, it's crazy to different commitments that corporate athletes have and prioritizing time is, is probably the biggest trick.

Darryl [69:44 - 69:45]
Yeah,

Chad [69:45 - 69:46]
yeah,

Darryl [69:46 - 70:24]
coaching soccer at him, but that's been super fun. I did not soccer as a kid, funny story, first practice, so he's playing academy, which means there's an academy coach who's really good. So we're doing like a warm up and the academy coach says, uh we'll start demonstrating the coaches are demonstrating what the kids are going to do when we call it a number. So one was like cut, right, that's easy enough. I could do that. Two was like cut back or something. Three was a step over and the coach starts to look at me and I just gave him like the littlest head nod, like, no, don't pick me. I have no idea what anyway,

Adam [70:24 - 70:27]
we call them the ted lasso of miners.

Chad [70:27 - 70:28]
I

Adam [70:28 - 70:35]
told him he's got to watch it before he starts coaching. He's got to get the kids to believe, man, that's all the all that matters.

Chad [70:35 - 71:29]
Gotta believe that's awesome. I think um, part of the seasons and like the goal setting, I think like obviously New Year, everyone's sort of likely taking, hopefully taking a pause at that stuff. I feel like that's one of the things that we've talked about Dave and a few other people like setting the expectation that you don't need to be like fully 100% invested in one thing, like for the whole year, right? Having those ebbs and flows and like Adam said, I think it's, if you have a fitness goal, think about when that actually goal comes to like its peak and then work backwards. So then you understand that there's a certain amount of time, you know, you're not, if you have a fitness goal in november, you shouldn't be training for it right now, right? So maybe now's a good time to have some downtime with fitness or and spend more time with family or whatever. So I think it's a good practice for everyone to do it for sure.

Adam [71:29 - 71:33]
I love that theory of reverse engineering it back.

Darryl [71:34 - 71:35]
Yeah,

Adam [71:35 - 71:51]
we do it in every other aspect of life and, you know, our most important thing, we're realizing fitness and health is, is number one and, you know, it's so easy just to show up every day and uh without a plan,

Darryl [71:51 - 71:52]
but

Adam [71:52 - 72:16]
a plan makes such a difference in Darryl's such a good proponent of that. You know, whether it's the habits that he has of just creating that schedule and sticking to it or setting those races out, he already knows that July 10 is his a race and he's got to make a plan to get there in the best shape you can as a coach, he has a community. So those

Chad [72:16 - 72:38]
say it sounds like the reason why one of the reasons why you got athlete of the year, 2021 athlete of the year is because you, after talking to you for this past hour like balance seems to kind of come to my mind like you've been able to balance your strength training, your endurance training, you haven't sort of dove all into one and got injured and I feel

Darryl [72:38 - 72:39]
like

Chad [72:39 - 72:45]
because you've been consistent and had good balance of the things that you wanted to do, you've been able to be successful.

Darryl [72:47 - 73:32]
Yeah, I agree. I think I've listened to people that know what they're talking about to write as you get older. You kind of understand that you don't actually know it all. There's a lot of people that know a lot more than you do, right? When you're 20, when I was 25 I knew everything. Um, now humbleness, let's say to know that I don't and there's a lot of people who know a lot better than me and just let them worry about like adam, you said it's not rocket science to program. I don't care. Let you worry about that. You're gonna, that's, that's what you do. You do it best. I don't need to worry about that. I need to do the work out to trust the people that are experts I think is a big time including Michelle. Like, I mean it took her calling me a seven year old woman defects it. I mean it it did. And listen to them.

Adam [73:33 - 73:40]
Mhm There's one, there's another tip of the day. Four

Darryl [73:40 - 73:41]
tips of the day.

Adam [73:41 - 73:42]
Better

Darryl [73:42 - 73:43]
get more downloads than danish.

Adam [73:44 - 73:56]
That's right. That was the goal. So Muskoka last year and now muscle man this year. What did you learn from Muskoka last year that you're gonna take into muscle man this

Darryl [73:56 - 74:01]
year. You know what I learned from races that I'm really good practice player.

Adam [74:01 - 74:03]
I'm just

Darryl [74:03 - 74:04]
kidding. No,

Adam [74:04 - 74:26]
it's you, you know, on paper, you trusted that you had all the right, you know, tools in place to hit your goal and we, and you realized after analyzing the race, you know, where did things go wrong and what was the, you know, what were the little tweaks that you got to make?

Darryl [74:26 - 75:14]
Yeah. And on so Muskoka last year, I actually Muskoka was super successful for me. I think everything mostly because I didn't over bike, which I do all the time. Every training mark tells, well, not every training, but a lot of training days. Mark will tell me to not over bike. Um, I didn't. And then I had this target of breaking five hours came out on the run and the first eight K was falls out that I'm gonna, or I say that well, it was hard about that. I'm gonna break 4 50 not five hours cause I'm gonna, I'm running four thirties and all as well and then, and then all collapsed around 8.5 kilometers And then it was this log for the next, whatever's left 13. I got passed by all the LP people,

Adam [75:14 - 75:16]
a little

Darryl [75:16 - 76:14]
nudge, little nudge by every one of them on the way by. Um, but hey, I mean, it's, that's, that's super fun. I wanted to get five hours. I went for, it Blew up. I got 5 13, which is still half hour faster than whistler. Yeah, And I was, I mean it was great, it was, it was, it was great by 36 km/h, which it would be like my five years ago would be my absolute hardest sprint, which is, which is just uh 20 k bike um and that would be just going hard and gassed at the end of it, I did that for 90 k under control um yeah, and that's all again, that's all coaching, that's coaching and management and direction and set in goal setting, chad setting goals for the swim, for the bike, for the run, knowing that I'm gonna swim better than adam in every single practice and then in the race he's gonna swim better than me.

Chad [76:14 - 76:15]
Uh

Darryl [76:15 - 76:21]
that guy, I don't chirp at him because it's not worth it. Uh

Chad [76:24 - 76:25]
kind of guy,

Adam [76:25 - 76:25]
he is

Darryl [76:25 - 76:39]
a game day, definitely game day kind of guy. The other thing about LP endurance in the community, there was so many people did that race, like there was LP Um kits with kids, like we prepare for the triathlon. How many people did that? Um, four, is it

Adam [76:39 - 76:40]
19

Darryl [76:40 - 77:21]
20 motivation because chad actually the same people you train within the community that you see on hard runs, on Wednesdays or on on long runs on Sundays are the same people you see in the race performing better than they practiced or having a bad day or just motivating it or having a great day and you're all cheering for each other all the way through. People having a great day. People having a bad day, people having exactly what they expected, right? That is the most fun in in bad, painful way that I've ever had in a race because there's so many people that you that I knew and that I trained with all the way along.

Chad [77:22 - 77:22]
I

Adam [77:22 - 78:16]
think that was another big eye opener for the endurance community. Is that in the past, whether they were teammates or not with other athletes on game day, they weren't teammates anymore and we were all on the course together and we were teammates, like we had been through war together in training and like it didn't matter how bad you were suffering, you were cheering on everyone else that, you know, you were passing or was passing, you wasn't, we were, you know, we want everyone to have their best day and that team working camaraderie is gonna lead to, we won the club championships in my opinion because of that, I feel like we would have had more athletes, the conditions were insane that day. We would have had more athletes quit that race if they didn't feel that sense of camaraderie. Um and that's, you know, that's what led us to our success. That's so true Darryl.

Darryl [78:17 - 78:39]
I will never forget that how much it rains so hard on that bike chat, like just torrential, torrential downpour. I was laughing with the person having on the bike because it was so crazy how much water was flying around and then it gets super hot and sunny and all that water is coming off the road, it turns into a sauna on the run. Yeah, yeah.

Adam [78:39 - 78:41]
Daryl,

Chad [78:41 - 78:41]
you give,

Adam [78:41 - 79:42]
you give the club in the community a lot of credit but I think it goes back to your tips of the day with your, your habits and your commitment just to the process, believing in the process bindings of the process, you just show up and do the work and it sounds so easy but it's so hard, it's so hard to just believe and buy in and do the work consistently. Like you know, chad keeps saying consistently, year after year over time, then it leads to 36 K an hour and you're gonna run for 30 Ks and you know, in muscle man because you know, conditions and this and that right, so it's, it is so cool to see the, that's why we changed the, the award from biggest transformation to athlete of the year because you're doing all the things that great athletes do is they just show up and do the work, they have a coach who makes a plan, they have a community and they just get the work done, which is so cool.

Darryl [79:44 - 79:45]
Well thanks adam, appreciate

Adam [79:45 - 79:47]
it, proud of you buddy,

Chad [79:48 - 79:53]
great way to end it, I think. Well,

Darryl [79:53 - 79:56]
thanks for having me chad. Hopefully I did. Okay, first podcast.

Chad [79:57 - 80:21]
You did. Great. Did Great. Thanks for joining. Congratulations again. Good luck with the with this year's goals. Hope you guys crush it. Thanks guys. Thanks for everyone for listening. Happy New Year to everybody. And hopefully, uh yeah, this is another great year for the Living and Life podcast.

Adam [80:22 - 80:23]
Hell yeah, can't wait.

Chad [80:26 - 80:29]
Thanks guys. Mhm.