Laura Lee Dam is a staple within our community, she’s been around since the start. For anyone within the community new or old - you know Laura Lee. She is a true competitor, cheerleader, professional, a powerhouse mom and a great mentor to many within the community.
We love to sit down with some of our community members and learn more about their journey to Living the Fit Life. And what a journey it has been for Laura Lee. Take a listen to understand how this Mom of two took her life back and used her workouts and her new found community to become one confident and strong woman.
Find out how living the fit life has allowed Laura Lee to say “YES” more often. Listen here.
Laura Lee [0:00 - 0:04]
Yeah, priority. Well
Chad [0:06 - 0:34]
community of members, coaches and professionals working as a team of like minded individuals in constant pursuit, connecting this exclusive group with the tools and resources they require to live a high performance lifestyle, conquering what life has thrown at them. We are living the fit life. Mhm. Yeah. Welcome to the living in fit like podcast. Episode 26. I'm joined by two wonderful ladies today, coach Michel and coach Laura Lee. How are you doing?
Michelle [0:35 - 0:39]
Good. I'm excited to have Laura leon today.
Laura Lee [0:40 - 0:50]
Thank you Michelle. I'm excited to be here. I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit nervous but I'm quite flattered to be asked. So yeah, I'm excited. Good.
Michelle [0:50 - 0:52]
Laura lee doesn't get too nervous very often. So this
Laura Lee [0:52 - 0:53]
is good pressures
Michelle [0:53 - 0:57]
on the hot seat.
Chad [0:57 - 2:21]
Uh Yeah, Laura lee has been a staple within our community. Uh She's been around since the start of LP or close to um and for anyone that's sort of in the community new or old, I'm sure you know, Laura lee, she's a true competitor, cheerleader, professional powerhouse mom and a great mentor to many within their community. Um So yeah, so this is another great episode to kind of sit down with someone from our community and understand their journey and learn about their journey. We've had a lot of people talk about their favorite podcasts are the ones that we get to hear about how someone trying, how someone's kind of gone through the living to fit like lifestyle, how they sort of embedded it to a point where it feels like clockwork. Um And obviously we know that it just doesn't happen like clockwork. So it's interesting to hear the story of how you get there, whether the hardships, the positives ups and downs of politics because I think everyone that's been there knows what it's like. So I think a lot of people can relate to that. Um And you're another great example of someone that embodies the living the life lifestyle. So this is your first episode coach, laura lee, which I know that you weren't always coach lawyerly but super excited to hear about your journey today. So as always on how to maybe start us off here, can you sort of paint us a picture of what your life was like before you kind of entered the doors of LP.
Laura Lee [2:23 - 6:43]
Great thanks chad, thanks for the introduction and the kind words and yeah I have been around, it'll be eight years this june that I've been at LP as a member and now as a coach and um probably the best eight years of my life as becoming who I am today and I can say that L. P. Has been um a really important part of that journey for me. Um So I picked this one over here. Sorry. No that's good. So you know, growing up I'm gonna go way way back growing up. I was always a competitor. So and I won I'm a winner in sports and I have, you know, I take that winners mindset through my life. So in school for track and field, basketball, volleyball, I played everything on all the sporting teams and I was back in the day, pretty good track and field runner and won a lot for my little catholic district that I was in. And then I was a fastball player, played on a team that won national championships, played all over Canada. Um and for me one of my greatest achievements, there was being chosen best first basement in Canada in one of our tournaments in british Columbia, so always a competitor and fortunate enough to be on, you know, winning teams. Uh, and then, you know, even in like I was, when I was reflecting back on this and kind of where this kind of competitor, this, this mindset for me to uh, to build the best life that I can remember. Even in swimming lessons, back when I took swimming lessons, it was all about an examiner coming in. So I was always on this kind of past fail and it was always important to me to show up to be prepared to pass everything that I could. I was also a swimmer. So background in lifeguarding and teaching, hence maybe why I love it and I drawn to it now is that I taught even until my daughter Nicole was born, I was still in aquatics teaching lifeguarding, uh, competitive swimming. Not as much, I was more of a nice swimmer versus competitor. I'm a very good technical swimmer versus a competitive swimmer, but did that as well. So growing up I had all that and then when I had my kids, my kids were sports people to uh most people know that. Yeah. Hockey mom, hockey mom with my son, hockey mom with my daughter. So um and very competitive with them as well. So that's kind of thing where I get a little bit of my my competitive juices from and it has not gone away. But before um you know, life before L. P. I was always, I always worked out. So I can't even remember in my 20's I had a good life membership. I had, I went to this place in London called the fitness form. It had a bar and a restaurant. It was a great gym. So in my twenties I go work out and then I'd be able to go to the bar and to the. Yeah I know with a restaurant. And so I've always worked out at a big box type gym and you know before L. P. I think I had two memberships at the same time, two big box memberships at the same time I had I had my kids, so I was always on this kind of weight loss nutrition journey. I was a lifetime membership of weight watchers, two times I've been through it all. And so I had a full time job, always had a full time job. I had my kids. And uh yeah like I I knew that I needed something else because nothing was sticking for me. So even being a member of a gym, still even going big box gyms a lot, nothing was really kind of sticking for me. So um and then yeah, LP came my way.
Chad [6:45 - 6:53]
Um So yeah, so did you know someone at LP or did you find out about LP on your own? How did you get introduced to LP?
Laura Lee [6:55 - 7:33]
My son went to L. P. So Tyler was a hockey player and he'd been going to L. P. And with Adam for since I think the summer previous or even before that when they were doing the hockey training and so um so I was getting all the emails all the time and it just wasn't, I think the face when I first started group classes, they were at lunchtime and that just wasn't an option for me. So um so yeah, so it was Tyler who who first who how I found out about LP because he was going
Chad [7:34 - 8:09]
cool and it sounds like you were quite the competitor back then. Um And once you sort of jumped into this sort of, and obviously you were mentioning the box gyms and that type of sort of fitness, once you sort of jumped into the doors of LP, what was sort of, um, you know, what was some of the first experiences, like what sort of got you excited about LP. Like what were, what were some of the things that you sort of lashed onto early on? Because I'm imagining for most listeners, LP back then was way different than it is today.
Laura Lee [8:09 - 11:35]
Right? Yeah. So I'll tell you, so when I made the decision, so I'll kind of give you what made the decision to get there. So classes started to open up more. So come that june time period, there started to be more classes. And for me then I was not a morning person, so I was trying to find time that would work best for me. So it was very strategic for me because I knew that during the school year with my kids uh six a.m. Would be the only time that I could work out and getting the, the, just the image of me getting up at 5 15 way you want to throw up, right? So not a morning person. So I started in june because during the summer I could go at seven a.m. Build my body up and then september comes six a.m. Then I'd be off and running. So that's how my mind works. So I make the commitment in my head that I'm going to join LP. And so I'm on the website and I think you could try a class for free or something like that. So I saw a boot camp and it was with Kendra so I thought the boot camp was going to be at LP so I drive to L. P. On this time because I knew and I again I'm like though I'm an extrovert extroverts, I really kind of over think a lot of things. So I was very kind of strategic in what I was gonna do because I was really afraid that I was going to be sore that I wouldn't know what I was doing. I my very critical thinker. Yes, very critical figure. I'm going to go to this boot camp outdoor. I can do that and I think it was keep that I spoke to and he was so lovely and he actually gave me the address of this woman's house who I have no idea who she wasn't, who she still is to this day. So he gives me the address and I think he might have alerted Kendra that I was coming but this wasn't, I don't think LP kind of sanctioned, it was just, it was somebody's backyard. So I just go into show up in somebody's backyard who I still not know to this day because I was determined that I was doing this boot camp on this day, so I remember going in there and hey, here I am and so I, so I end up doing this this boot camp, so, and then my next class because I was very strategic and how I wanted to start because I knew I was gonna be sore and I, I knew I had to, you know, make sure I maintained everything. So I did a a saturday boot camp And we knew that they were 30 minutes long in out should be okay. And I remember leaving the gym and I met somebody in the parking lot that I knew and they're like, oh, hey, how's it going? And I just wanted to vomit like I was going to vomit. That's how hard, that's how hard it was. But it was a good heart because I kept on showing up. And so, you know, when I joined, uh, when you talk about commitment and coming here, I remember meeting with Michelle afterwards and saying, ok, so what do you think, What are you going to do? And I said, you know, let's just go for six months because I don't want to commit too much. I already, I already had two memberships still on the back, so this is my third. Um and she said, she says, let's just go for the year and I'm like, okay, we'll go for the year and, you know, easiest sales
Michelle [11:35 - 11:36]
Laura Lee [11:36 - 12:41]
yet. But when you talk about challenges, like things that work like kind of in the, in the Like eight years ago I did the very first frozen four. And so the very first frozen four, we got to pick our own partners, not like draft day that we have now and team leaders and money being exchanged and stuff. So it was neat martin days and, and, and Mcdonald and I were the six a.m. We were neighbors because they started, we were there, I've already been there and they were kind of our neighbors. They were new so and would cook for us every friday because that was when the challenges were. But I remember the, when we talk about, you know, um, coming to the gym challenges, checking your ego at the door, very humbling experience. Every time I'm at the gym and the very last challenge was a LP mile with the med ball. Red ball.
Michelle [12:41 - 12:42]
Yes, I remember this
Laura Lee [12:42 - 13:19]
With the four people twice. So the first time we're doing okay right and running, running like I can run, it's not my strength, but I remember going around the second time and we're at the back where the dumpsters are and I'm almost in two years because I cannot carry the ball anymore, they're running so far. And so remember Nate saying with me and he goes, we'll just we'll just do it together literally. So we uh we ran it together, but that was when kind of little bit of a good old days of the The frozen four and then it got really competitive and then kind of backed out for a little while a little while longer. But
Michelle [13:20 - 13:23]
amazing. Yeah, those are some good times,
Laura Lee [13:23 - 13:35]
those are. And then, so when you talk about, so we used to have these olympics and it was a leader board and it was in age categories. Yeah. Do you remember
Michelle [13:35 - 13:39]
what age category we had for? What would you have been in?
Laura Lee [13:39 - 14:12]
I would have been sport 40 plus, I think I was 40 plus or 45 plus. 40 plus, maybe 40 plus. And let me tell you, I got on that leaderboard more than once. More than once. What was your, what was your exercise? What was my exercise? I don't even squat. Maybe squats. No, I would have been a venture. Yeah. And maybe. What else did we do?
Chad [14:12 - 14:26]
That was that was cool. That was like the whole week thing. That was a long jump. Uh The beep test the sprints. There's some fun stuff max like pull ups. But almost after every
Michelle [14:27 - 14:33]
cycle we did, we pretty much retested all of these exercises.
Chad [14:33 - 14:39]
Those are fun. That was a fun week, goes to the plank, the max plank. Next push ups, I would say
Michelle [14:39 - 14:43]
not for everyone, but definitely for you, competitive
Laura Lee [14:43 - 14:44]
Chad [14:44 - 15:00]
Well, one week, one week in the sense of like uh you came to the gym and you did like one day you would do like the beep test and you would do like a max jump. Maybe it nowadays we do like five different circuits and we do a squat thing, it's like Amplified Like Times 10.
Michelle [15:00 - 15:10]
That's because we had to sort of manage the competitive folk and the people that were there for a workout. So we literally had people uh
Laura Lee [15:11 - 15:12]
not come the whole
Michelle [15:12 - 15:20]
week because it was like, oh it's testing, like I'm not going to get in a good workout so they just failed. So we kind of had to find a good happy medium.
Chad [15:20 - 15:26]
So you were so you didn't know this about you, but you weren't a rising grinder.
Laura Lee [15:26 - 15:45]
Yeah, I forgot about that always. Yeah, so I started at six a.m. So I did my two months at seven a.m. To climate ties my body, right, get it going. And then I six a.m. Always um Yeah, and I can remember when we put the five a.m. In. So,
Chad [15:45 - 15:49]
but before LP, you you didn't work out in the morning?
Laura Lee [15:49 - 15:51]
Oh God, no.
Chad [15:51 - 16:08]
So like, what kind of shift was that for you? Like obviously joining a brand new gym you're doing in the morning, because that's like the only time, How did you like, how was that for you? Like, I did like, you look back on that time saying like, how could I ever go without it? Like, is it one of those things where you like in the morning when the day kind of thing for you now?
Laura Lee [16:08 - 18:12]
Yes, absolutely, Absolutely. I can remember, you know, so as, you know, as a mom and being working full time and taking care of your kids and knowing to, like, I knew that I had to work out, like it was all, it's always been in me that I that I had to take care of myself, but I couldn't find a time. So I would do it lunchtime at work, I used to live in downtown, I used to work in downtown kitchen, so I would be at the Good Life Marketplace, but I do a little class there or something like that, right? Um, but I knew it wasn't enough and I knew it wasn't sustaining me and it wasn't given me good feelings, it wasn't just all that. So I knew that the only time would be in the morning, And I remember talking to um to a friend of mine and she's like well what's stopping you from working out in the morning? I said well I'm like I'm really tired and she says well you know um if you start to work out in the morning what's going to happen to you? And I said well you know I'll probably be a better mom, a better wife, a better per person, a better employee and but I'll be tired. And she says well are you any good to your family or your kids by not doing that? And I'm like no I'm not good to anybody because by 2:00 PM I want to have an app right because I wasn't really doing anything. So it really was a complete mental shift for me to go to six a.m. But it was the only time that I could now, oh my gosh, that six a.m. Sets me up for success every single day. It sets the tone of my day, it is all about, it's my time with my friends, I can be who I want to be and like I said it just sets the tone for the whole my whole day and I've never, there was a time that Michelle would know this too, that I never did any other class. If I couldn't do six am I wouldn't work out because I was like I can't do 4 30 I can't I
Chad [18:12 - 18:14]
don't cheat on the six hours.
Laura Lee [18:14 - 18:18]
Yeah, but now now it's okay. But yeah always six a.m.
Michelle [18:19 - 18:49]
And I would say it's been interesting to see um like as us being coaches within this last covid year or at least had to make some personal sacrifices for the team and Not always participate at the six a.m. and you definitely, it changes changes up your day, changes up everything. So it's been a tough kind of a tough go when we were at the gym for some of us with those time changes and
Laura Lee [18:50 - 19:17]
but I had to do the evening for at the five a.m. And you know, it just, it like threw me off like really threw me off during covid. So we had Covid and then not just my eating my digest like everything and my mental health was just um just you know, not in the right place, but you gotta do what you gotta do and that's what that's what we did and we you know what is my thing to find a way, got to find a way to
Chad [19:17 - 19:51]
do it. Amazing. That's awesome. And you're also mentioning um You were part of the first frozen four fairly early at L. P. Select you jump right in get the competition? Like was there a with L. P. And with sort of that competition like you come from a very competitive background, were you sort of looking for that? Like was that something that you felt like over the years you didn't have? And all of a sudden like I need this competition frozen forward, give me whatever it is I'm in this is what I need because I have missed it for X. Amount of time.
Laura Lee [19:51 - 20:06]
Do you know what? I don't think I was that thoughtful. I was but but I think I think being an L. P. Has like um driven my competitiveness even more.
Chad [20:06 - 20:07]
Okay that's fair.
Laura Lee [20:07 - 20:08]
Michelle [20:08 - 20:12]
get in a battle with laura lee in the net challenge.
Laura Lee [20:13 - 21:08]
Uh No I think it I've risen to that. Um But what LP has also done for me is giving me the opportunity to say yes to so many things that I would never have said yes to before. So I am one to say yes before I say no and I don't want to think about because if I think about it then it's like, oh I couldn't do that or I couldn't do that or I can't make that work or all that. So it like for me when anything comes up, it's like yes versus being known. So um that's what this also has given me that opportunity, which is amazing, right? Because then you can take that in other parts of your life of just doing stuff and you're gonna be ok right, you're gonna be okay. So yeah, so yes,
Michelle [21:09 - 21:10]
Chad [21:12 - 22:05]
Um So was was so I want to also talk about like nutritional recovery a little bit too, but like, so can you tell us about like the first few years at LP were you really just primarily focused on waking up in the morning getting that six AM workout in, how like how is that sort of journey early on with sort of, you know, because we often talk about finish the one hour day in the gym is one thing, but then a lot of the things that sort of make us all very successful, the things that happened outside of the gym. Um but we also know that isn't just happen all at once, right? It's kind of a journey in progression through the, look at the finished thing that I'm going to tackle this. So like how did you approach that, like from a fitness and then getting to the next thing? Like was it easy for you to kind of just kind of Do a full 3 60? Like I'm I'm I guess my biggest question is, when did you cancel the other two memberships?
Laura Lee [22:06 - 22:08]
Oh, good question Todd.
Michelle [22:08 - 22:10]
When did we get her? Yeah.
Laura Lee [22:11 - 24:54]
Um Well, I cancelled one of them right away, but the other one, I had such a great deal on it. They would never get the deal again that I did keep it for a while just because I paid so little for it. But then I did give it up but I never went there. I never went there. That's too funny. Um Yeah, like you say it was an evolution, right? So The fitness part became easy to me, like easy as in getting up in the morning, going fully committed 5-6 days a week, right from the beginning, because it was just this place of, you know, joy for me to go and um to be with my people, right? They were my people. You know, at the beginning I had I had to training partners and we spanned three decades. A 20 year old, one or 21 or thirties and one or forties. And damn it, I could put them in the chain. We we would crush it. And I'm like, we're in like three decades. It was amazing. So, The fitness was, was that part that um so I started in June one Body Comp Challenge was in the September October. And so fitness was good, nutrition was just kind of the same. And then I did the body can't challenge. And that's when I knew, right. Like I um I always do the body comp challenge. I have um excellent success with it. And that first time that I did it, I was like, blown away, right? And that was where? And I journal a lot, right? So I journal all these things, how I'm feeling all of this stuff. And it was the nutrition, right? Like that's the that's the magic, right? When you can get your nutrition nutrition on board. That's the magic. And that's what happened to me. And uh and that's when the full that was when, okay, now I get it. And I had full real buying at that point. Um was that was that that body comp And now I do them because I just I'm amazed at what our bodies can do. I'm amazed at what our bodies can do when we make slight changes if it's nutrition, if it's sleep, uh sleep. I've always been asleep. Nazi sleep has always been kind of really, really important, especially with kids always trying to get enough sleep. So that's always been easy. But the nutrition um that was the big thing for me and but it's still the area where I struggle the most, to be perfectly honest, kids who are struggling most,
Michelle [24:55 - 25:05]
I'd love to hear a little bit about those struggles literally, like what, what sort of triggers those struggles? Is there anything that um sort of gets you off off track?
Laura Lee [25:07 - 26:50]
So I am an emotional eater, a stress eater I have um I would say sometimes a very high stress job and so I will just eat through all of that. And that's probably like the biggest thing I was sugar is my is my kryptonite, any sugar cookies and then they can be dollar store cookies. I, I ate food food when it comes to my cookies. And so, but for what happens for me is when I get into, I'll be perfectly honest, when I get into that pattern and then I get into very negative self talk and then it becomes about mental discipline again. So I'm a person who as long as I feel strong mentally, being able to make decisions with thought, my life is good, but when my eating goes off track, I lose all that discipline and I just, I can't I don't eat at the right times, I don't eat the right foods and then I have a lot of negative self talk and the only way that I can come out of it, It is my 91112 Michelle. I need to check in and and that's what I do. So, and it isn't, you know, it's interesting because when I do the check in, it's about getting myself mentally strong again to get back on track. That's what it is. And it's not about losing the weight, it's not about anything like that. So I don't feel like my head isn't right in that game.
Michelle [26:50 - 27:00]
Yes, Sometimes you don't feel confident because sometimes all I have to say is take a quick peek, cut what you want to eat. I'm like, literally, you know what, you know what to do,
Laura Lee [27:00 - 27:40]
You can do it. Just do it. Yeah. And and sometimes that will work and that has worked. And I'll be honest with everybody during covid. Yeah. And I've talked to many members about this. And so I really I needed an intervention this time around with Michelle. I needed a big, not a big intervention, but I need an intervention plan again and again. We know this. I've been doing this for eight years. I know it, but sometimes you just need that little bit of help. So, um you know, I never hesitate when I get into that place because it's just not good for me mentally to be in a place where I spiral, especially with my nutrition, it's not good.
Michelle [27:41 - 27:59]
And I think it's a good point is that it's not always easy to stay within that high performing nutrition. I'm going to eat the best, always right. Like we're, there was a lot of ebbs and flows and ups and downs and it's not easy.
Laura Lee [28:00 - 28:43]
It's not easy. And so, you know, when I'm not kind of like maybe in a cut or a body comp or stuff like that, um then I'm just eating to perform, right? That's really what my lifestyle is about eating to perform day to day at the gym in my life with my Children. And um and that's, you know, trying to make the best choices as possible and being in a place where I can be mindful about what I'm eating right, I can stop, I can pause, I can look, I can make good choices, But when I get into the downward slope, I gotta give 911 to the boss to say no, okay, okay.
Chad [28:44 - 29:37]
I think, I think you bring up an interesting point because I think you're kind of talking about balance and I think morgan and Michelle talked about balance too, because like, and I would like to your opinion on it, because like on one side, like there's the relationship with food, especially for women with food on, I'm eating terribly and I have to have a great body composition, and then on the other side is like, I'm eating like I have to eat so strict and I have to eat so clean and I can't allow myself to like detour that at all. And that's just what we, what we have found out. It's just not sustainable, right? Like you can't just be on either ends of those right? It's about balance. You have to choose somewhere in the middle. Like how do you sort of like for someone that's new, that's kind of getting into this, like how do you figure out that balance? Do you just have to kind of walk the walk to kind of get there? Or like do you have any sort of tips on your side or opinions on your side that can help someone figure that out?
Laura Lee [29:38 - 32:34]
Well, I think you need to talk to somebody like coach Michel, help you through that, right? But yeah, like we we know that it's we know that it's a balance and we know that um typically as women, we have relationship food issues on their right. And so for me, I think when I started everything, you can't do everything all at once, right? So for me, it was about getting my fitness on track, you know, making that something completely sustainable. Because when you try to go all in which which a lot of people want to do all in all at once, and when you're in the fitness game for a long time and you're not doing nutrition, you don't see the results, right? And you're like, what's going on? I'm working out six days a week and I'm my not dropping the weight. I'm not dropping stuff because because the relationship between food and nutrition is so paramount as with your sleep and recovery, right? And so I think it's, you know, to be able to focus on the 11 thing at a time and it is about that balance. And I'm all go to, you can feel if you truly scan the body, you can feel when your body is performing its best and you can feel when your body is not performing its best. And I can I can tell that pretty much instantaneously about what I what I've been eating. So I think it's about taking a scan and how are you feeling right? How are you feeling with with your eating? Um You know and when you're when you're working out through your whole day where are you getting those crash times and all of those are clues and its data to be able to use to be able to you know then start to make better nutrition choices. That's great. That's helped at all. You know it was interesting because in this last challenge um I like you all got the whoop band whoop and so you know, again it was about data, like let's just see some data. So when I had my little bit of a 911 breakdown with Michelle and had to go on a plan and then so when I'm kind of an all or nothing girl too, right? So I'm still knows this, it's like I get all in and then I'm just like completely focused and um my recovery on my loop with me eating no sugar eating, um increasing my protein eating at the proper times and not eating close to bed was the change to me was huge. So that's for me, the data that I like to see and I can feel that too, right? So that's just you know, once again validates the fact, even though we know we know, but when you see it, it truly validates yeah,
Michelle [32:37 - 32:58]
chat, if I can jump on your question a little bit um about building building those habits and I don't know exactly what you said in terms of a question, but it's interesting from a leadership perspective and um I don't know if I should save all of these thoughts out loud, but I'm going to end this.
Laura Lee [32:58 - 33:00]
Michelle [33:00 - 33:32]
we look at say like the body can't challenge, there's there's some pros and some cons, always two challenges, right? And on one hand, we get to educate and help our members learn so much about nutrition, right? And then on the other hand, we have this, oh it's a challenge. Oh this is what you're gonna do for four weeks time, right? So it's how can we as leaders
Laura Lee [33:33 - 33:34]
Michelle [33:34 - 34:23]
two thoughts to build those habits so that people can take these forward in their life and and build those habits and lifestyles. Um and you're not always going to be like as strict as you are saying, a challenge, but how can we not only build these habits or do these things during a challenge, but enforce them so that people can sort of learn and take those away. So definitely something that we always think about and um tried to try to help people do, but definitely definitely challenges can sometimes be a little bit negative for that because it's just like a short period of time, but it's trying to find that balance of short term and long term success of building those
Chad [34:23 - 34:38]
challenges, challenges are not meant to create consistency, right? Is to create insight and to then increase, to introduce habits which habits increase, because this is so I get it, it's exactly,
Michelle [34:38 - 34:43]
it's but it's a hard uh it's a hard thing to to balance
Laura Lee [34:44 - 34:55]
uh and it's not sustainable right then when you're talking about what is sustainable, you know, so it's creating those healthy habits, that is the sustainable peace on there. Okay.
Chad [34:58 - 35:12]
Um Yeah, no that's really great. What is your what is one of your go to uh meals, like what's the day? Give us a quick look at what you eat in a day, What's your go to? Always interested?
Laura Lee [35:13 - 35:30]
Oh me too. No, I'm a copycat er I'm a copycat middle person, so again very simple, very like, you know, so uh morgan's meals, I'm a morgan's meals addict. Um so
Chad [35:30 - 35:32]
we need to get her to start paying us for this, I
Laura Lee [35:32 - 37:39]
think show sponsor, because I work out first thing in the morning, I usually don't eat beforehand, I usually do work at the look at the workout. If I know it's gonna be pretty heavy, I'll do like a rice cake with some sugar free jam just to get that little bit in me. Um During my workout I am a bio steel and protein girl throughout my workout, my first meal would be too hard boiled eggs, multi grain bread, low pena, but to and I try and have greens, I'm not that great, I'm going to be honest and not that I'm just all about the peanut butter and bread. Really? That's what yeah. Oh man, so that would be, and then I probably won't eat until lunchtime, lunchtime will be uh that would be either a morgan salad or I'll just make my own salad with protein. I'll have some, probably rice crackers with that. Lately I'm doing this kind of, I'll get like my own little shit kodori, board some cheese, some protein, some veggies, you know that kind of stuff. Lots of color in there. I will snack in the afternoon. I usually have, um, Costco has their sugar free, sugar free, salt free mixed nuts. So I do a quarter cup of mixed nuts, I do a tablespoon of dark chocolate chips and a tablespoon of raisins. That's my little thing there. And then dinner will be, yeah, salmon or fisher, you know, anything like that. So that's pretty much what my uh, what my days consist of. My kids eat all that too. So it kind of works out that well. Oh yeah, and I think crazy but simple. I can't have too many options just to keep it simple keeps me on track.
Chad [37:39 - 38:10]
That's amazing. I know what you're talking about nutritional, but I had one more question. Um, you're talking about like eating for performance and I know that Michelle, you talked about a lot like how a lot of uh new members or even just people in general, like when you go to do fitness there never eating enough. Right? And so like how have you, like, was it challenging for you to all of a sudden? Like, I feel like you're eating more and how did you cope with that? Like how do you cope with like eating more food? Or again, is this just another thing that you just learned along the way?
Laura Lee [38:10 - 39:33]
Yeah, I think that is something that I learned along the way because I did, I fell into that pitfall of not eating enough And I think that might have been another 911 call to the boss saying I'm doing all this stuff, things are changing. I'm, my workouts are feeling, see I am the boss and it was and then I went through this kind of whole carb thing, don't eat the carbs, don't eat the carbs. And then I remember it was like eat the carbs and for me my body likes them. And so I had to, yeah, I was one of those that I had to increase my food intake. I wasn't eating enough, my workouts were suffering and then it was like another, it was like a light bulb, it was like, oh my now, you know, I was into a groove, I felt strong like alert, you know, all that. So yeah, again over time, but again, like, I don't know, I guess my biggest thing for people to here's don't sit with that stuff too. Like talk to the, your coaches and talk to people because if you, if you don't ask the questions or is this normal or why am I feeling like this? You know, you're never gonna know and like I said, I just never hesitate to ask those things so please ask
Michelle [39:34 - 39:37]
straight shooter. She is and I love her for it.
Laura Lee [39:37 - 39:39]
Chad [39:40 - 40:54]
Amazing. Um awesome. Yeah, that's, that's fantastic. Uh nutritional advice. I wanted to talk about a topic with you, well one because you have a lot of wisdom and um you're in this position, but like I think there's a lot of people that are probably listening, they probably share a similar story uh with you. Like, you know, many women, they sort of put their heart and soul into their kids and you're kind of mentioning a few things before, right? You were very competitive and then you had kids and then you know, they become competitive and then you get so intertwined with their lives um for such a long period of time and I know your kids are a little bit older now. So how is that transition, like did you, was there a sense of like um looking for independence as sort of the kids gotten older and you were sort of looking for something on your own? Is that kind of what driven you to take on this sort of new lifestyle because it feels like this lifestyle, even though you were competitive, younger person, it is something very new and it definitely seems like you really embody and empowers you to be who you are today. Um Was was there this, am I am I kind of like completely off or can you relate to this at all?
Laura Lee [40:55 - 43:01]
Yes, I can relate to this. Um, and I think the transition on often times and I know and I'm only going to speak for me. I hold, you hold a lot of guilt. You hold a lot of guilt as a mom. I'm taking away from the family. I need to be here for the kids, that sort of thing. And my gift to me was six a.m. Because that's what worked for me and my family. So I could do this guilt free and I would feel, and I could feel good about it. So for me that was the transition and it was a transition about taking my life back really as a woman, not as a mom, not as anything about that, but just bringing, you know, taking my life back as a woman. And, and so I, you know, would go into the gym. I didn't have to worry about anything. And as I said, I could be who I was. I just, I just started to flourish. Like I really did. Like the, all the confidence came back to me. Um, I made so many friends as an adult that's sometimes a little challenging to. I made all these friends. I found this place of inspiration. People inspired me, these young people and we didn't talk. So I'm 54 and you know, so I was, I'm surrounded by these young people that who inspire me to keep me young and and then I was came into a place where I could inspire people, so how cool is that? And so as a woman who has always been a leader and has always worked and all that kind of stuff, this was just something completely different for me where I could just find me and find all these qualities that, you know, I think I knew I had, but I, this, this was like coming home for me that I could be truly who I am.
Chad [43:02 - 43:05]
No, I think a lot of people look up to you in the green,
Laura Lee [43:06 - 43:12]
you know, and then to like when you talk with the age thing right about the young people that now I've got this great group
Michelle [43:12 - 43:16]
of people, let's let's let's get an age category for that. So
Laura Lee [43:16 - 43:17]
Michelle [43:17 - 43:18]
chat and I and the young
Laura Lee [43:18 - 43:21]
people, Yes, okay, definitely.
Michelle [43:21 - 43:24]
Okay, so mid-30, because I just say
Laura Lee [43:24 - 43:27]
that yes, you did. Okay. Now
Chad [43:27 - 43:28]
we're being transparent.
Laura Lee [43:29 - 44:26]
Yes, you're very, very, very transparent. You said mid, we all know we're all on facebook, we all know. Um but yes, but now it's you know, I can have conversations with women or her in and around my age, write that, you know, I want to try this out or are here and you know, being able to talk with them about stuff that's happening in their life and coming into, you know, menopause that we talk that stuff now and because, you know, women my age are want to be fit and healthy and strong and all that too. So, um, I just find myself in an incredible, unique place that I value um, and don't take for granted all, um, that I can make a difference with people. I think it's, I'm just so fortunate to be able to do that in this environment.
Michelle [44:29 - 44:50]
I love that, and I'd love to chat more about how you sort of made that transition. I hear a lot about um being a leader and inspiring others is, would you say those are the things that drove you to become a coach with us and, and maybe you can talk a little bit about, um, the new stuff you have
Laura Lee [44:50 - 47:17]
coming up, new stuff. Sure, So yeah, so for me, um, you know, a couple of years back, I went through a transition in my life and um I had some time to be able to pursue some passions and I didn't know there were a few passes, a few things that I wanted to do, and one of the things was to become a personal trainer. Um And so I can remember when, when I thought of that, like when I went, because within this transition of life too, I was like, man, I think I might need to make some more money. I'm like, I could go into a baby chapters or Starbucks, and then I'm like, oh my goodness, you know what I thought about for so long was being a personal trainer. So, and if you remember I said way back, I used to teach and I used to teach aqua fit to in the pool and all that kind of stuff. So I'm being an extrovert, right? I kind of like that that that gig. So I remember talking to Adam Michelle and I remember we went to Starbucks and I said this is um and whatever, have a new idea come up with a plan that had a power point the last time I always come prepared, I don't take anything prepared, I don't take anything for granted and I'm open to anything. So I said this is what I'm thinking about, this is what I think I can offer. Um and you know, my thing is just, you know, like I love LPC love okay, so much that whatever I can do to give back, I will do. So they were all in on it. So I did my, you know, personal trainer course, um all the exams, which is, that was just crazy being a little bit older. Writing exams was kind of cool but cool and scary and doing some practice teaching. And uh, and then, yeah, so then I came on board and made that transition, um, to coach. And what all I remember just saying is if I can give, if I could give a little bit back to the members that I have received, I will be completely happy. So
Michelle [47:18 - 47:19]
Laura Lee [47:20 - 51:07]
So that's what I got to. That's how I got to be a coach and, and I truly can see me kind of doing this, you know, you know, throughout my, like when I'm tired knows. Um, and then my, and my latest thing and most people know about it. Um, and how again it came about. So covid, right? Everybody has great ideas, drink covid. And so whenever for me, whenever I have a little downtime, I'm like, so what can I do? Right, what could I, could I be better? Right. I always just want to just be better. And I knew that I yoga something that speaks to me on a very spiritual level. And um, as Michelle said to critical thinker overthink I spend a lot of time in my head and um, so that part of yoga really speaks to me as well and I think that's something I will probably do in a few years. But I was, what I also wanted to do was I wanted to take another certification that again, I could potentially bring to the gym and support members in in another way. Um, and finally kind of a little bit of a niche for myself. So I got the power point out, like I got this great idea. So I stopped them down to the whole power point and so now I'm going through to be a joga trainer and this is basically it's it's yoga for jokes, okay. And it's about building stability and mobility. It's a neuro muscular system and it for athletes, it is amazing. And um it is geared towards athletes NFL NHL um um N. B A really, really big in the NBA are doing this active recovery um joga. So I, for me I was, I loved it. I did a session with this Janna web is her name and I did a session a couple years back with her and I remembered it and I'm like, this is something that I could do. So sports for me is my background, right? Like I love sports, my kids in hockey. Um and so yeah, so I took this training Like 40 I think. I don't know how it was a long, long training and now um I had to do third I have to do 30 hours of practice teaching which I'm doing in the gym and blessed everybody. And I'm a stay to everybody who comes out to my classes who especially the people have struggled with me at the very very beginning. And um and then I'll go for my um I will do an exam and it's a pretty heavy duty exam. This is um um This program they want to be like the yoga um for sport in in all of sports, they want to they want to be the accredited program. And so I'm going to do that in june and it's a it's a really great program so you know I'm hoping once I get certified once again we'll see how it fits into L. P. But it's also a great thing that I can't do on my own with hockey teams. Um You know sports any kind of sport team hockey is a good one because I know hockey and I know the movements of hockey, the biomechanics of hockey which this is all about kind of biomechanics. That's you know so um but yeah so that's kind of my my latest uh thing that I love it.
Michelle [51:07 - 51:08]
Laura Lee [51:08 - 51:09]
chad would be a
Michelle [51:09 - 51:11]
Laura Lee [51:12 - 51:32]
Well during your yes all of you would be I would get great candidates, everybody that like it's hard, it works on imbalances, it works on joint mobility and stability, all the language that we all talk about.
Michelle [51:32 - 51:35]
I'm really looking forward to some in person.
Chad [51:35 - 51:40]
Michelle likes to sign me up for things during podcast.
Michelle [51:40 - 51:41]
Every time I just say
Laura Lee [51:41 - 51:45]
okay well the first, yeah
Michelle [51:45 - 51:49]
chad and I will be your first signed up for the first one back at L.
Laura Lee [51:49 - 51:53]
P. I will hold your deal, hold you do,
Chad [51:53 - 51:54]
Laura Lee [51:54 - 51:55]
Chad [51:56 - 52:44]
Yes, I love I love that you decided to chase your passions. Um I love that and I love that. Like, I don't know like I feel like I'm actually bad for this because like I get caught up in the idea of like just you know, you're kind of just doing what you need to do to support your family, right? You might not be. I often think about this often like, do you enjoy your job? Do you do do you enjoy what you're doing right now? Like are you following your passions? Um and you kind of get caught up in it, right? Like life is busy and I'm sure you you felt like that and but like it's amazing that you just decided to like circle around and say, hey like no, I'm passionate about this and I want to do it. I could take a lot of advice from you. I'm sure there's others too.
Michelle [52:45 - 52:57]
And it's not like, oh, I'm just gonna do it. Like when she came to, she was like, okay, this is how I'm going to do. Like, I am not taking the easy road. I am doing this certification. I want the respect. So she's like fully planned out. I'm going for it.
Laura Lee [52:58 - 52:58]
Yeah, It was
Michelle [52:58 - 52:59]
Laura Lee [52:59 - 54:06]
Thanks Michel that was important to me. Especially I want to become a coach. Like I'm like, just don't put me in because I've been here for eight years. Like I'm doing the work. I want to like, I wanted, I wanted respect, right? I wanted to people to know that I, you know that I, I knew that I was talking about and Yeah, for sure. And but you know, chad when when you say that about, you know, one of my, this is my saying right is if it's important enough, you'll find a way and even in my career, right? Like I spent and people knew a year and a half. I was traveling to Toronto twice a week and but still keeping up with everything because it was everything was important to me. And so you sacrifice, you make some sacrifices. Absolutely. Um but you find a way to do, you know what's important to you and you know what gives you life and what what jazz is. Yeah, right? And that's what I've really, really learned in the past bunch of years, right? Just to, you know, find that passion and find a way to find a way. And we have so many members that do that, right? They just find the way
Chad [54:07 - 54:29]
Yeah, that's amazing. And I love, and I love the fact that you went that road, like learning. That's been something I've been trying to make myself do more is like actually like sign up for a course to sign up for a certificate or some like that and do the learning and it couldn't doesn't have to be related to any specific thing that I'm doing now. It could be completely random, like yoga for example. Um but that idea of like constantly learning is super, super cool.
Laura Lee [54:30 - 54:33]
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Chad [54:35 - 55:24]
Um I wanted to ask like how, because it sounds like you mentioned a few times like, you know, at the gym, the community, like it's really sort of changed your lifestyle obviously, like when we talk about specific things like the pillars like fitness and nutrition and recovering all that sort of stuff, but like how is sort of like this sort of uh community, this whole sort of new life. So how does that change outside of like these pillars? Right? Like has there, would you say it's completely change your lifestyle, how you sort of look at things on a daily basis? It sounds like you know just the simple thing of you know going to the gym early morning sort of changed. But like how significant has this sort of lifestyle which is embodied? You change your lifestyle?
Laura Lee [55:24 - 55:26]
I bought a freaking rower. Come
Michelle [55:26 - 55:28]
Laura Lee [55:28 - 58:15]
our big bike, I have weights in my basement like uh that's the perfect answer. Yeah like really? Come on. Just for the challenge. Just for the challenge. Yeah. No. Yeah because like this is the challenge. Yeah like yeah I'll go from six K. To 21 K. And 24 hours for the challenge my lifestyle. Um But no so yeah it has changed like it's changed, you know everything I do and you know um not everything I do but you seek out like minded people and so you my friends you know I seek out like minded people. Um And I've often heard you know like um sometimes are the lifestyle that we lead. It's not for everybody, right? It's not you know it's not it's a very small percentage of the population that um goes all in. Like we go all in to be honest. But you but I just you know I I just search out those people that can support me, understand me and then you know even like long time friends and family that don't that don't lead that. But they're all very very supportive. One of the amazing things too is that man I'm working with my kids, come on. Right? So at one point just watching my kids trained for their sporting events and started that and now we all do it together, right? So that's something we would never have done before. Um you know, surrounded, you know that way um you know, a role model for your kids, right? My kids friends, I go in to the gym on night times when Nicole's hockey team was there because I was there hockey trainer and they're like, wow, you come here to and you do this like, so you know, it really just, you know, um it spreads to everything, you know that you do right? That this is, it really is, it becomes, you know, when we take a look at what our values are right and I think that the core stuff, my values are now have completely shifted. Not really shifted, but you know, physical health, nutritional health sleep, because it's about being the best person that I can be. And if I sometimes have to make a little sacrifice here and there and sign me up because, you know, I want to be here, I want that bio hack 1900 right? Like all that stuff like, you know, so has my life been an overhaul? Absolutely. I think it's a little by little, we go to wolf that's changed, but absolutely,
Michelle [58:16 - 58:43]
when you talk about changes, literally, I'd love you to sort of dig in. Um, as a woman, I'm always intrigued uh, to house some of the life changes that we go through, how that's affected. Um, some of the, some of those those pillars, has it affected fitness? Has it affected nutrition? And, and if you can sort of gives them guidance on how you've been managing that,
Laura Lee [58:43 - 62:13]
would you like to be clear on what stage of life I'm talking about here? Because I don't know, you can speak to it, you're talking about menopause, you knew for me, it's not a dirty word gang, my dirty word. Um, you know what? I love talking about menopause and I'm just kidding. So no, I, I will say, um, for me personally, being in menopause and I do have symptoms like it's great because there's women at the gym, we love to talk about this stuff, right? And when you talk about people like, oh my God, we're talking about it. I know that's what I want to bring up. Yes, yes. No hot flashes and mood swings and people say weight gain. Um, I'm still, I'm not convinced on all of this stuff. So on my personal experience, um, hot flashes for me, that's, that's a thing. It's a given. And ladies out there, you, you feel me like you feel me right, especially this weather now to uh so, and I try a lot of things, right? I try a lot of natural things, so I don't, I don't do, hey, um I lost my mom to breast cancer, so, and she was on hormones for a lot of years very young. So I um I will go the natural route. I still find hot flashes quite fascinating that the human body does that. So like if I come from that might sound like, okay, it's just fascinating and um but I just, I try to manage through as naturally as possible. I chat with doc gin to the natural path about stuff like that as well before I take anything that might be, you know, off my, the, you know, the regular vitamins. Um but I do a lot of that. I do a lot of vitamins and, but other than that, honestly, I think that's the only thing for me. Um I'm, I think the, like people with women will talk about the weight gain peace in there. I truly believe still that um as long as I'm watching what I'm eating, that's not a thing for me and I will tell you, I slowed down a little bit in my workouts. I used to be able to, you know, crush stuff. I don't crush anymore. I think you're crushed crushed. No, see how I too hard on myself, right? Used to crush, not crushed, but I can still crush. You're absolutely correct. I can still crush a mep challenge. Let me tell you and I can stay with the best of them on that. Um but you know, and that's why I say when I go to the gym guys, hey, some some days I slay it Slade hard some days my tights and shirt on inside out and that's all I got right, but, but I'm there, so yeah, has menopause affected me not, I don't think so. Hey, we're in the natural part of life and um, I also have to come to terms that, um, you know, I don't have a lot of fast twitch in me anymore. A lot of jumping, I noticed I'm really kind of different things where my workouts are changing now and so I need to come to, to,
Michelle [62:13 - 62:16]
that's why you need the shorter boxes now will be a little bit
Laura Lee [62:16 - 63:04]
more understanding. I can't, don't like, I used to jump like really? Uh yeah, so there, you know, when you, when you get down to it and then you're like, wow, I can't jump like that. Um, but yeah, you go through that. But again, you know, I just think, um, I'm not about excuses. I'm not, I don't think I've missed time at the gym hall. Say unless it's been an injury. Yeah. Or, and I haven't had too many of those, but I've had one kind of major back injury, but unless it's been an injury or I've been on vacation and I still get, I have, I don't miss the gym. Do not miss the gym. No excuses. Sure. No excuse. Find a way. Love it. Mm hot like that done and impossible. Let us wear see Michelle were brought top. So it's kind of who
Chad [63:04 - 63:10]
you always look for. The reason. Here is the reason. Yeah, I
Michelle [63:10 - 63:13]
didn't, I didn't know literally would want to go tarps off
Laura Lee [63:15 - 63:21]
at the park plaza. I'm here. You know,
Michelle [63:21 - 63:22]
always for the team. The greater
Laura Lee [63:22 - 63:27]
good. Yes, you are. Yes you are.
Michelle [63:28 - 63:30]
Oh, that's good. Thanks slowly.
Laura Lee [63:31 - 63:38]
Hot flash as we speak. We speak. Ladies will know. Ladies will know.
Chad [63:38 - 64:28]
I think, I mean, I think the listeners we met if I didn't ask this question, but like how do you, how do you, how do you do the things you do during these map challenges? You know, you kind of were just talking about like how things have changed. But like man, like, and for any listener that's not in the community map, it's like a heart rate monitor. And we have these new challenges where your heart rate gets you points basically. And Laura lee is one of uh, the top dogs if you will, that just continues to set the bar higher and higher. Like how, but what goes through your mind when you wake up and you're looking at, you know, I don't know how many hours, 6-10 hours of just constant movement to win the challenge. That might not actually win
Laura Lee [64:28 - 64:30]
Michelle [64:31 - 64:33]
Chad [64:33 - 64:36]
that's more important than a t shirt.
Laura Lee [64:36 - 64:57]
A T shirt. No, no, no, because yeah, I will. The I did win though. My team did win that Frozen four last year, the one day, What was it? 5000 episodes a day. We won that. So I at least I have that win. Let's not
Michelle [64:57 - 64:58]
discuss that day.
Laura Lee [64:58 - 65:05]
Yeah, that I will, I'm gonna that's in the books, man, you can't take that away from me and my team.
Chad [65:05 - 65:06]
That was on your team.
Laura Lee [65:07 - 65:17]
We were Yes. I don't know the method for me. That's just, you know, again, it's this effort. What's that?
Michelle [65:17 - 65:19]
It's just effort, charlie's got the effort
Laura Lee [65:19 - 66:28]
and it's just a mind, it's all in the head, it's all in your mind and I can remember, yeah, like, and I just just do it, I will okay, so sometimes when I'm doing that running and I'm like holy crap, like I'm on five hours and I'm 54 years old and I'm running still, I do go, I kind of go back and like, like what's with, and so obviously I have a kind of a body that can just keep doing that right and then your strategic to your strategic and what you're doing, your strategic on the impact, um you know, on the impact of your body and I just try not to look ahead as to what I'm doing, but I'm a competitor and whatever it takes, I'm doing it and especially if I get, if I get like messages from like chat rooms and I'm not like on the leader board in their eyes. Exactly, I get a little old spectator grip but fired up and I'm like to add um I like you send me those, you send me those chats so I can see
Chad [66:29 - 66:33]
those will that spectator thing will not be a thing for their child is moving
Laura Lee [66:33 - 66:39]
forward. The secret society. It's
Chad [66:39 - 67:07]
so crazy because you were saying at first like when you first joined the gym, you what decided to go to seven a.m. To acumen your body and then you picked a boot camp on a saturday because you knew you'd be sort of the next day and now you're like throwing yourself into hours and hours of like just effort like and you're older now and I guess like how is your body, how does your body feel, like how do you feel? Is it just be like what is the recovery like then
Laura Lee [67:08 - 67:15]
maybe we shouldn't talk about this one? Yeah. Well usually it's pretty
Michelle [67:15 - 67:16]
good. This challenge went a bit
Laura Lee [67:16 - 67:52]
overboard. Yeah so so usually I'm pretty good with my recovery um Typically right? So um I I know all the things that I need to do recover, I do all that stuff fuel my body, get my sleep, take my baths, do my you know by stretching my words, all that kind of stuff. Right? This time around though this challenge I what would they be the term I bonked like. So yeah
Chad [67:52 - 67:53]
it's good to find that threshold though.
Laura Lee [67:53 - 69:07]
Yeah I found the threshold. Yeah and I bombed. And again guys so this word me, how fascinating was that? Like that's what I take from it wow that was pretty, pretty cool that I could do all of that work For. I think I did 32 days with four days off and and then I bombed. But my body could sustain that heart rate for that long. Um then it really wasn't good. But I was 911 to the Boston. Uh somebody right here. Yes. But yeah like I think that last day I did like I think I did 100 minute imam. Anyways, people do way more. But for whatever it is. Yeah I can just do it, find a way to do it mrs and then rushing it and recover, recover. But again you just say yes right what what an opportunity. It's an opportunity to I don't know. That feels the same. That's your yes.
Chad [69:08 - 69:13]
Oh my gosh I could use some of your swagger for
Laura Lee [69:13 - 69:20]
sure. Just say yes can't hurt can't hurt. I know.
Chad [69:21 - 69:24]
That's amazing. That's amazing. I've learned a lot today.
Michelle [69:24 - 69:25]
I think that's all we
Chad [69:26 - 69:27]
you've inspired me.
Laura Lee [69:28 - 69:31]
I'm such an inspiration. Thank you.
Chad [69:31 - 69:37]
Yes, thank you. It's been awesome. It's been awesome. This has been a fun episode. Yeah, maybe one of my
Laura Lee [69:37 - 69:43]
face don't get out. I think I got that out.
Chad [69:43 - 69:58]
Yes, this is yeah. This has been very insightful, Love to hear your background um and your journey, because honestly, like for people that know, you know, like it just looks like you're just kicking ass. So, but obviously there's a lot of stories
Laura Lee [69:58 - 69:59]
Chad [69:59 - 70:02]
how you got here. So super. Thank you for sharing.
Laura Lee [70:02 - 70:10]
Thank you chad and thank you for having me. Thanks Michelle. Thank you. And yeah, find a way guys, let's do it.
Chad [70:11 - 70:16]
I love it. I love it. Thanks for listening. Have a good day. Bye.